Re: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-31 Thread Steven Furlong
petro wrote: someone wrote You are hereby sentenced to read thirty hours of Hettinga-rants on settlement costs in digital commerce transactions. Doesn't the constitution ban cruel and unusual punishments? No, that applies only to actions by the government. Other bans on cruel and

RE: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-24 Thread Bill Stewart
At 02:12 AM 7/23/00 -0400, Steve Schear wrote: At 07:30 PM 7/21/00 -0400, David Honig wrote: At 07:00 PM 7/21/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: Indeed. And the solution to both is crypto: wear disguises in public, and use anonymity. I was thinking about laws making masks illegal. Can you turn in a

Re: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-24 Thread Tom Vogt
David Honig wrote: there's a difference between this and a database system. almost all laws on privacy (where such exist) realize that. Really? What's to stop me from 'gargoyling' (to use a _snow crash_ term): running a few VCRs on my surroundings as I wander in public, later indexing the

Re: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-24 Thread Tom Vogt
Tim May wrote: As for Tom Vogt's claim that European privacy laws have exemptions for the things cited in the discussion, this is false. Companies with even small data bases are required to register. (We had a discussion of this a few years back. Someone who does business in the U.K.

Re: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-24 Thread David Honig
At 04:39 AM 7/24/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote: David Honig wrote: there's a difference between this and a database system. almost all laws on privacy (where such exist) realize that. Really? What's to stop me from 'gargoyling' (to use a _snow crash_ term): running a few VCRs on my surroundings

Re: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-24 Thread Steven Furlong
Anonymous wrote: Bill Stewart wrote: And US public schools can ban funny-colored hair, Has this actually happened? Short answer: Yes. One kid when I was in high school (early '80's) was forced by the school administration to shave his head after he dyed his hair (blue?) (green?).

Re: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-24 Thread Tom Vogt
David Honig wrote: said difference? namely the one between manual and automatic data processing. That's the implementation detail I'm varying in this gedankenexperiment, but since when does implementation matter for law/morality? for the german privacy law: ever since it was made.

Funny-colored hair (was RE: ZKS economic analysis)

2000-07-24 Thread Nomen Nescio
Jim Choate wrote: Yes. There is a school district north of Texas which has succesfully thrown a kid out for wearing a shirt with 'Fuck' on it. That was not my question. Obviously most if not all public schools impose "dress codes" upon their wards. Hair seems something of a different

RE: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-21 Thread Tom Vogt
Ken Brown wrote: every time I see you walking down the street I collect personally identifying information about you. I store it in the little database in my mind. You can't stop me. I may not do much with it, or write it down anywhere, but it's there. Distasteful perhaps, you might not like

Re: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: even if you DO buy a car w/ cash, the dealer still sees your face (probably most personally identifying thing you have), and although I've never bought a car w/ cash, I'd be surprised if they let you drive it off the lot w/o at least collecting your name and