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2002-07-08 Thread jamesd
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Re: Artists

2002-07-08 Thread Tim May
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Re: Artists

2002-07-08 Thread Mark Burns
Tim May: People would go to theaters to see the film in all of its glory, true. But the theaters would no longer, in your scenario, have to fork over money to the studios. (Or that theaters would face special regulation by government, etc.) Hopefully this 'what-if' world has anti-trust

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2002-07-08 Thread Adam Back
But right now copies of recent release movies (post screen release, but pre DVD/VHS relase) are not generally available in high quality format, suitable for projecting. So one way that the movie distribution industry could plausibly continue to make money would be rather than the movie theatre

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2002-07-08 Thread mean-green
At 10:20 PM 7/8/2002 +0100, Adam Back wrote: But right now copies of recent release movies (post screen release, but pre DVD/VHS relase) are not generally available in high quality format, suitable for projecting. As you note later, most recent releases to the Net are often lower quality 'cams'

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Re: movie distribution post copyright (Re: Artists)

2002-07-08 Thread jamesd
-- Obviously, the end of copyright may well mean a substantial reduction in the proceeds from big movies, but it will hardly mean a total end to those proceeds (the powerpuff girl movie is one big toy advertisment) How big an effect will a reduction in money mean? If you go back thirty

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Re: DRM will not be legislated

2002-07-08 Thread Tim May
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Re: Artists

2002-07-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 4:49 PM -0400 on 7/8/02, Mark Burns wrote: Hopefully this 'what-if' world has anti-trust deregulation going hand in hand with the removal of copyright protection. Nah. All we need is encryption and a cash-settled digital market. Studios would do just fine, maybe better. Cheers, RAH --

Re: DRM will not be legislated

2002-07-08 Thread jamesd
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2002-07-08 Thread Eric Murray
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Re: Why we must stay silent no longer

2002-07-08 Thread jamesd
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RE: Artists

2002-07-08 Thread jamesd
-- On 8 Jul 2002 at 11:25, Trei, Peter wrote: Some forms of creation require little in the way of up-front investment. Others do. Consider movies. While some of the people involved get to do creative work that they love, many don't, and they all have to make a living somehow. Would the

RE: Closed source more secure than open source

2002-07-08 Thread Trei, Peter
Bill Stewart[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 06:31 PM 07/06/2002 -0700, Joseph Ashwood wrote: First, closed source testing, beginning in the late Alpha testing stage, is generally done without any assistance from source code, by _anyone_, this significantly hampers the testing. [...] One

Why we must stay silent no longer

2002-07-08 Thread Anonymous
The death of democracy is at hand. http://www.zmag.org/meastwatch/hertz.htm

Re: Closed source more secure than open source

2002-07-08 Thread Bill Stewart
At 06:31 PM 07/06/2002 -0700, Joseph Ashwood wrote: First, closed source testing, beginning in the late Alpha testing stage, is generally done without any assistance from source code, by _anyone_, this significantly hampers the testing. This has led to observed situations where QA engineers sign

movie distribution post copyright (Re: Artists)

2002-07-08 Thread Adam Back
But right now copies of recent release movies (post screen release, but pre DVD/VHS relase) are not generally available in high quality format, suitable for projecting. So one way that the movie distribution industry could plausibly continue to make money would be rather than the movie theatre

Re: Artists

2002-07-08 Thread Mark Burns
Tim May: People would go to theaters to see the film in all of its glory, true. But the theaters would no longer, in your scenario, have to fork over money to the studios. (Or that theaters would face special regulation by government, etc.) Hopefully this 'what-if' world has anti-trust

Re: DRM will not be legislated

2002-07-08 Thread Tim May
On Monday, July 8, 2002, at 04:01 PM, Anonymous wrote: be available. A substantial number of consumers will voluntarily adopt DRM if it lets them have a Napster-style system of music on demand, with wide variety and convenient downloads, as long as the songs are not too expensive. I doubt