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I concur. The problem is that the most prevalent e-mail program (Outlook) requires no user intervention as a default when signing and/or encrypting a message with S/MIME. One can override the default to High Security (requiring password) only while the X.509 certificate is being installed. I

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SSL for commerce is readily in place without batting an eyelid these days. Costs are still way too high. This won't change until browsers are shipped that treat self-signed certs as being valid. Unfortunately, browser manufacturers believe in cert-ware for a variety of non-security reasons.

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D converters

On Thu, 30 May 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: This is absurd. In all the commentary on this issue, no one has made the obvious point that the MPAA has no interest or intention in putting watermark detectors into every ADC chip! They don't care about the ADC If they don't they are screwed.

Re: sources on steganography

Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what drives you, then I suggest that you work on that. hr On Wed, 29 May 2002, Morlock Elloi

Re: sources on steganography

Hector Rosario wrote: Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what drives you, then I suggest that you work on that. hr On Wed,

Re: sources on steganography

At 11:19 AM -0400 5/29/02, Hector Rosario wrote: I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a technical monograph that would be of use to undergraduate instructors. What do you think are the best sources on steganography on the Web? What about books other than Johnson,

Re: sources on steganography

Hector Rosario wrote: Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some ^ ^^ ^ help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a ^ ^ ^

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Re: When encryption is also authentication...

Hi However, I'd be interested to know just how many users out there would enter their card details on an unprotected site, despite the unclosed padlocks and the alert boxes. ( 02.05.30 08:34 -0400 ) Ian Grigg: Huge numbers of them. You won't see it in security lists, but most of your

Re: Making Veri$ign rich(er)

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Re: When encryption is also authentication...

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Re: sources on steganography

Peter Wayner has a few books that deal with this and related topics. Search for them on Amazon or wherever. At 11:19 AM 05/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a technical monograph that would be of use to undergraduate instructors. What

Re: sources on steganography

On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 09:41, Hector Rosario wrote: Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what drives you, then I suggest that you

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Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D converters

Peter Trei writes: My mind has been boggled, my flabbers have been ghasted. In the name of protecting their business model, the MPAA proposes that every analog/digital (A/D) converter - one of the most basic of chips - be required to check for US government mandated copyright flags. Quite

Re: When encryption is also authentication...

I concur. The problem is that the most prevalent e-mail program (Outlook) requires no user intervention as a default when signing and/or encrypting a message with S/MIME. One can override the default to High Security (requiring password) only while the X.509 certificate is being installed. I

Re: Forward-secure public-key encryption eprint

David Hopwood writes: Forward-secure public-key encryption has been discussed here, on sci.crypt, and elsewhere. To recap - the goal is that an adversary who breaks into your computer today can't read messages sent/received yesterday. In the interactive case, you use ephermal Diffie-Hellman.

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D converters

At 06:20 AM 5/30/2002 +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: Peter Trei writes: My mind has been boggled, my flabbers have been ghasted. In the name of protecting their business model, the MPAA proposes that every analog/digital (A/D) converter - one of the most basic of chips - be required to

Re: When encryption is also authentication...

SSL for commerce is readily in place without batting an eyelid these days. Costs are still way too high. This won't change until browsers are shipped that treat self-signed certs as being valid. Unfortunately, browser manufacturers believe in cert-ware for a variety of non-security reasons.

Re: sources on steganography

Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what drives you, then I suggest that you work on that. hr On Wed, 29 May 2002, Morlock Elloi

Re: When encryption is also authentication...

Mike Rosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having it be transparent where the user doesn't need to know anything about how it works does not have to destroy the effectiveness of digital signatures or crypto. When people sign a document they don't know all the ramifications because few bother to

Re: sources on steganography

Hector Rosario wrote: Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some ^ ^^ ^ help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a ^ ^ ^

Re: sources on steganography

Hector Rosario wrote: Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what drives you, then I suggest that you work on that. hr On Wed,

Re: sources on steganography

At 11:19 AM -0400 5/29/02, Hector Rosario wrote: I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a technical monograph that would be of use to undergraduate instructors. What do you think are the best sources on steganography on the Web? What about books other than Johnson,

Re: Forward-secure public-key encryption eprint

On Thu, 30 May 2002, Anonymous wrote: David Hopwood writes: Did I miss a separate message in which David Hopwood followed up to my post? Cypherpunks is more reliable for me than it used to be, but it's not always all there. math is really advanced and not many implementors or users are

Re: sources on steganography

I AM OSAMA Good one !!! lol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hector Rosario Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:42 AM To: Morlock Elloi Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sources on steganography Why would I be interested in fool[ing]

Re: When encryption is also authentication...

Ian Grigg wrote: [...] SSL for commerce is readily in place without batting an eyelid these days. Costs are still way too high. This won't change until browsers are shipped that treat self-signed certs as being valid. Unfortunately, browser manufacturers believe in cert-ware for a

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At 01:52 PM 5/30/2002 -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: Summary: Recent laws have attempted to make electronic contracting binding, but they have not addressed some of the fundamental principles of contract law. These fundamental principles are often stretched or broken in electronic contracting.

Re: When encryption is also authentication...

Mike Rosing wrote: On Thu, 30 May 2002, cypherpunk_reader wrote: If the end user insists on e-signing a document without having read it it is there perogative, but I think there should be a better system in place to insure that they either read it or that they did not read it but

Re: sources on steganography

Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a I think that perception and sense of humour are sort of required for crypto work. = end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam

Re: When encryption is also authentication...

Hi However, I'd be interested to know just how many users out there would enter their card details on an unprotected site, despite the unclosed padlocks and the alert boxes. ( 02.05.30 08:34 -0400 ) Ian Grigg: Huge numbers of them. You won't see it in security lists, but most of your

Re: Making Veri$ign rich(er)

On Thu, 30 May 2002, Ian Grigg wrote: [...] And, in practice this is how it goes. No thief ever bothers to do an MITM, even over *un*encrypted traffic. They simply hack into the machines and steal it all. That's why there has never been a case of CCs sniffed over the net and being used to

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Re: CDR: Re: sources on steganography

Jesus christ Hector! What the fuck are you planning to be when you grow up? A funeral director or something? Grow a sense of humor for chrissakes. Or get lost, whichever is easier. yeah, I top posted. And my sig is at the bottom. Sue me. On Thu, 30 May 2002, Hector Rosario wrote:

Re: sources on steganography

Peter Wayner has a few books that deal with this and related topics. Search for them on Amazon or wherever. At 11:19 AM 05/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a technical monograph that would be of use to undergraduate instructors. What