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From: Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:01 AM
Tyler Durden writes:
So my newbie-style question is, is there an eGold that can be
verified, but not accessed, until a 'release' code is sent?
In other words, say I'm buying some
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 08:05:34PM -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Where does one go today, if they are unwilling to participate in the
Failed Experiment? (BTW: No, Lichtenstein does not accept immigrants, and
yes, I have reverified this recently).
Go East. Fortunes are made there.
--
Eugen*
Tyler Durden wrote:
Hum.
So my newbie-style question is, is there an eGold that can be verified,
but not accessed, until a 'release' code is sent?
proof-of-delivery protocols might help (but they're patented, as I
discovered when I reinvented them a few years back).
In other words, say I'm
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Finney, Hal (CR)
[SNIP discussion on ripping cash]
The problem is that if the source code you are purchasing is
bogus, or if the other side doesn't come through, you're
screwed because you've lost the value of the torn
Click the link to see various formulae.
Cheers,
RAH
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- Middle East Quarterly - Fall 2004
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Yasir Arafat and the Palestinian Authority are known internationally for
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Cheers,
RAH
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November 5, 2004
COMMENTARY
A Gangster With Politics
By BRET STEPHENS
November 5, 2004; Page A12
In 1993, the British
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WONDER LAND
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Blue Democrats
Lost Red America
Back in 1965
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And you tell me over, and over, and over again my friend
Ah, you don't
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A shallow, stale spin, unduly sanctimonious, and highly
presumptive of the legitimacy of election reports.
Same vapid shit to fill news void would have been written
if Kerry squeaked by.
Ben Laurie made a lot of useful points. However,...
Simultaneous release is (provably?) impossible without a trusted third
party.
I don't think I believe this. Or at least, I don't think it's true to the
extent necessary to make the original application impossible.
Consider:
I send you money
Hello,
Have you recently noticed that your computer is all of a sudden running slower than
normal? Or, perhaps you're noticing that you've recently been inundated with an
inordinate amount of annoying and intrusive pop up advertisements. The reason this
may be happening is because your PC's
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Townhall.com
The oldest fraud
Thomas Sowell (back to web version) | Send
November 5, 2004
Election frauds are nothing new and neither are political frauds in
general. The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left
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Corporate governance goals impossible - RSA
By John Leyden (john.leyden at
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:01:41 -0500, Tyler Durden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
My photo-bundle receives the releases and opens, and then shoots off a
message that activates the pre-release on your end, giving you the cash.
Is a 3rd party necessary here? I don't see it, but then again I could
Here ya go, John and Bill,
Knock yourselves out...
:-)
Cheers,
RAH
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Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue
The unteachable ignorance of the red states.
By Jane Smiley
Updated Thursday, Nov. 4, 2004, at 3:24 PM
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Forbes
Ten O'Clock Tech
When A Pencil And Paper Makes Sense
Arik Hesseldahl, 11.05.04, 10:00 AM ET
Thank goodness, it's over. Sometime around 4:30 A.M. Wednesday I went to
bed, not the least bit uncertain that George W. Bush had
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 03:01:15PM -0800, Hal Finney wrote:
Another idea along these lines is gradual payment for gradual release
of the goods. You pay 10% of the amount and they give you 10% of the
source code. You pay another 10% and you get the next 10% of the source,
and so on. (Or it
Well, this is just commie propaganda.
Bob, you know this is against list rules, everybody knows
what's right, stop blue-baiting, you fucking nazi.
Enzo Michelangeli writes:
In the world of international trade, where mutual distrust between buyer
and seller is often the rule and there is no central authority to enforce
the law, this is traditionally achieved by interposing not less than three
trusted third parties: the shipping line, the
Michael_Heyman writes:
Finney, Hal (CR):
The problem is that if the source code you are purchasing is
bogus, or if the other side doesn't come through, you're
screwed because you've lost the value of the torn cash. The
other side doesn't gain anything by this fraud, but they harm
At 1:05 PM -0800 11/5/04, John Young wrote:
Bob, you know this is against list rules, everybody knows
what's right, stop blue-baiting, you fucking nazi.
:-)
Cheers,
RAH
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R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation
I dunno...a lot of it made sense to me.
You don't have to be a Commie in order to believe that someone ELSE believes
there's a class war, and that they gotta keep us black folks po', or else
we'll soon be having sex with their wives and daughters and competing with
their sons for decent jobs.
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Hash: SHA1
At 10:18 AM -0800 11/5/04, Hal Finney wrote:
Yes, I'm looking at ideas like this for ecash gambling, but you have
a who-goes-first problem.
Whenever we talk about financial applications, where the assets
represented by one bearer certificate are
What if I block the outbound release the money message after I
unbundle the images. Sure, I've already committed my money, but you
can't get to it. In effect I've just ripped you off, because I have
usable product and you don't have usable money.
Well, yes, but this would be a very significant
Tyler,
Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere
as the most fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a
term of endearment, and also admirable role model by some.
Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity.
Tim May, praise Allah, always claimed
Last blue-baiting post, I swear. Gotta love HST, especially after the ether
kicks in...
Cheers,
RAH
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R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
These were not the sort of sporting arrows skillfully shot toward gayly
colored targets by Victorian archery societies (charmingly described by Mr.
Soar in later chapters) but heavy bodkin pointed battle shafts that went
through the armor of man and horse.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tiarn=E1n_=D3_Corr=E1in?=) writes:
The Russians (for example) conquered Hitler's capital, Berlin. And I believe
the Russian zone in Germany was larger than any of the others, reflecting the
fact that Stalin bore most of entire burden of defeating Germany,
At 6:34 PM -0800 11/4/04, Bill Stewart wrote:
I have to agree with the critics of Kerry who said
that he was aloof and out of touch with Middle America
.. and it's a big middle this year:
http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/BushCountry04Map.jpg
Of course, there's the nuanced version, but,
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 08:05:34PM -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Where does one go today, if they are unwilling to participate in the
Failed Experiment? (BTW: No, Lichtenstein does not accept immigrants, and
yes, I have reverified this recently).
Go East. Fortunes are made there.
--
Eugen*
--
Nomen Nescio wrote:
To label any argument that points out the obvious circumstance that
injustice feeds hatred as communist propaganda, is really only
ridiculous, even if it's also dangerously incompetent and as such no
real laughing matter.
Why do you mention Bin Laden anyway? There
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Finney, Hal (CR)
[SNIP discussion on ripping cash]
The problem is that if the source code you are purchasing is
bogus, or if the other side doesn't come through, you're
screwed because you've lost the value of the torn
- Original Message -
From: Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:01 AM
Tyler Durden writes:
So my newbie-style question is, is there an eGold that can be
verified, but not accessed, until a 'release' code is sent?
In other words, say I'm buying some
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041105/sff023_1.html?printer=1
Yahoo! Finance
Source: Cryptography Research, Inc.
Cryptography Research VP Benjamin Jun Takes Aim at Content Pirates
Friday November 5, 6:02 am ET
Discusses Technology Trends and Responses at Upcoming RSA Conference Europe
2004
SAN
This business of blue states joining Canada is rich. Please keep it
up; begging would be delightful.
Actually there is a somewhat academic book published some years ago by
Mike Adams called Sex in the Snow which discusses the apparent values
congruence between the blue states and most but not
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Hal Finney wrote:
Another idea along these lines is gradual payment for gradual release
of the goods. You pay 10% of the amount and they give you 10% of the
source code. You pay another 10% and you get the next 10% of the source,
and so on.
Just as an aside, this is in
Bob continues to forward entertaining and occasionally insightful articles
to the list.
From the bluesy side of the fence, Moby wrote:
can someone remind me why secession is not an option at this point?
Meanwhile, on the Commie-colored side of the fence,
Mike Thompson of HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE
Ben Laurie made a lot of useful points. However,...
Simultaneous release is (provably?) impossible without a trusted third
party.
I don't think I believe this. Or at least, I don't think it's true to the
extent necessary to make the original application impossible.
Consider:
I send you money
Tyler Durden wrote:
Hum.
So my newbie-style question is, is there an eGold that can be verified,
but not accessed, until a 'release' code is sent?
proof-of-delivery protocols might help (but they're patented, as I
discovered when I reinvented them a few years back).
In other words, say I'm
R.A. Hettinga wrote:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041105/sff023_1.html?printer=1
Yahoo! Finance
Source: Cryptography Research, Inc.
Cryptography Research VP Benjamin Jun Takes Aim at Content Pirates
Friday November 5, 6:02 am ET
Discusses Technology Trends and Responses at Upcoming RSA Conference
A shallow, stale spin, unduly sanctimonious, and highly
presumptive of the legitimacy of election reports.
Same vapid shit to fill news void would have been written
if Kerry squeaked by.
So, it's the night of the day of the morning after, and all around us are
masses milling in despair over the destruction of freedom that has
occurred here over the last four years.
Given that the US was the Gulch to the brain drain of the Soviet Union,
where does a true capitalist, or even just
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:01:41 -0500, Tyler Durden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
My photo-bundle receives the releases and opens, and then shoots off a
message that activates the pre-release on your end, giving you the cash.
Is a 3rd party necessary here? I don't see it, but then again I could
Well, this is just commie propaganda.
Bob, you know this is against list rules, everybody knows
what's right, stop blue-baiting, you fucking nazi.
At 1:05 PM -0800 11/5/04, John Young wrote:
Bob, you know this is against list rules, everybody knows
what's right, stop blue-baiting, you fucking nazi.
:-)
Cheers,
RAH
--
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R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 03:01:15PM -0800, Hal Finney wrote:
Another idea along these lines is gradual payment for gradual release
of the goods. You pay 10% of the amount and they give you 10% of the
source code. You pay another 10% and you get the next 10% of the source,
and so on. (Or it
What if I block the outbound release the money message after I
unbundle the images. Sure, I've already committed my money, but you
can't get to it. In effect I've just ripped you off, because I have
usable product and you don't have usable money.
Well, yes, but this would be a very significant
Here ya go, John and Bill,
Knock yourselves out...
:-)
Cheers,
RAH
---
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politics
Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue
The unteachable ignorance of the red states.
By Jane Smiley
Updated Thursday, Nov. 4, 2004, at 3:24 PM
I dunno...a lot of it made sense to me.
You don't have to be a Commie in order to believe that someone ELSE believes
there's a class war, and that they gotta keep us black folks po', or else
we'll soon be having sex with their wives and daughters and competing with
their sons for decent jobs.
Enzo Michelangeli writes:
In the world of international trade, where mutual distrust between buyer
and seller is often the rule and there is no central authority to enforce
the law, this is traditionally achieved by interposing not less than three
trusted third parties: the shipping line, the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
At 10:18 AM -0800 11/5/04, Hal Finney wrote:
Yes, I'm looking at ideas like this for ecash gambling, but you have
a who-goes-first problem.
Whenever we talk about financial applications, where the assets
represented by one bearer certificate are
Tyler,
Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere
as the most fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a
term of endearment, and also admirable role model by some.
Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity.
Tim May, praise Allah, always claimed
Last blue-baiting post, I swear. Gotta love HST, especially after the ether
kicks in...
Cheers,
RAH
---
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