--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When asked about
the issue that most
influenced their vote, voters were given the option
of saying moral
values. But that phrase can mean anything - or
nothing. Who doesn't vote
on moral values? If you ask an inept question, you
get a misleading
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[Hal:]
Interesting. In the e-gold case, both parties have the same bank,
e-gold ltd. The
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(Guys, this has drifted out of crypto into finance, so I
have a feeling that it will disappear of the crypto list.
But the topics that are raised are interesting and important
enough to carry on, I think.)
[Hal:]
Interesting. In the e-gold case, both parties have the same bank,
e-gold
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The fact is that those who did not vote effectively voted for Shrub.
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Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were the only two
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
J.A. Terranson wrote:
The fact is that those who did not vote effectively voted for Shrub.
You are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem.
Inaction is not good enough.
Voting is not a solution.
Voting only encourages
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Excellent humor, this Hooverismo, got all the usual targets
in his insulting-like-Lenny-Bruce jibe. Probably high on
narcotics like Lenny. Imagined victory turns on losers.
A bit excessive with hyperbole, but that's code by comics.
Remember the CIA Comic from the late 90s? Told hilarious
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Holy Crap! Am I on crack? I think I agree with everything here!
However...
(James Donald wrote...)
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
Well, every people deserve the government they get, and these hillbillies
are no exception. Bush will dominate them, take away their rights, make them
poor and scared, and they'll deserve every bit of it. (Where's a Tim May
rant when you need one?)
See also.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
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Everyone remembers Florida's 2000 election debacle, and all of the new
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JAT wrote...
This election *proves* that at least half the electorate, about 60 million
people, are just Useless Eaters, who should be eagerly awaiting their Trip
Up The Chimneys.
A...I need a cigarette.
But I suspect it's far more likely that some large batch of USA-ians will
end up having a
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
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JAT wrote...
This election *proves* that at least half the electorate, about 60 million
people, are just Useless Eaters, who should be eagerly awaiting their Trip
Up The
James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I find this very hard to believe. Post links, or give citations.
Normally I'd dig up various refs, but since this topic has been beaten to
death repeatedly in places like soc.history.medieval, and the debate could
well go on endlessly in the manner of
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Jason wrote:
Republican Lists
http://www.opensecrets.org/parties/contrib.asp?Cmte=RPCcycle=2004
http://www.opensecrets.org/parties/contrib.asp?Cmte=RNCcycle=2004
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Justin wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/politics/07court.html?partner=ALTAVISTA1pagewanted=print
We're going to get some extremist anti-abortion, pro-internment,
anti-1A, anti-4A, anti-5A, anti-14A, right-wing wacko.
You mean Shrub is going to elevate Clarence
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 21:40:22 -0600 (CST), J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
St. Louis Pledge Against Fascism:
Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything offered by a
contributor to George Bush's campaign. This is my contribution to the
survival of freedom in the
--
Peter Gutmann wrote:
Nobles expected to surrender to other nobles and be ransomed.
Commoners didn't respect this, and almost never took prisoners.
Henry's orders didn't make that much difference, at best they were a
we'll turn a blind eye notification to his troops.
The english army was
James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Peter Gutmann wrote:
Nobles expected to surrender to other nobles and be ransomed.
Commoners didn't respect this, and almost never took prisoners.
Henry's orders didn't make that much difference, at best they were a
we'll turn a blind eye notification to
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By Alex Beam, Globe Staff | November 6, 2004
You have probably heard the idle chatter: ''I'm thinking of
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:46:17 -0500, Tyler Durden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In other words, he won because some hillbilly was afraid that the guy at the
local 7-11 was going to blow up his chicked farm. Those of us living close
enough to Ground Zero to smell it back in those days are apprarently
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
In other words, he won because some hillbilly was afraid that the guy at the
local 7-11 was going to blow up his chicked farm.
Precisely.
So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict the
American people as being complicit
On 2004-11-06T16:39:41+0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:46:17AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict
the American people as being complicit in the crime known as Operation
Of course. What kind of question
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Justin wrote:
On 2004-11-06T16:39:41+0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:46:17AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict
the American people as being complicit in the crime known as
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 18:25:19 +, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not true.
much busywork math deleted
Saddam had 100% turnout, and won 100% of the vote. Does that make his
election more legitimate to you?
--
Pete Capelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For the map-obsessed, this one shows the depth of support for
President Feckless in the global community. Pretty goddam impressive
I'd say. I takes true flair to blow off so many former clients and
fair weather friends in so short a time.
http://www.warrenkinsella.com/images/worldmap.jpg
And oh
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 09:31:24AM -0800, James Donald wrote:
I routinely call people like you nazi-commies.
How novel and interesting.
Cut the rhetoric, get on with the program. Cypherpunks write code.
--
Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 06:25:19PM +, Justin wrote:
Not true.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/voter.turnout.ap/
[Curtis] Gans puts the total turnout at nearly 120 million people.
That represents just under 60% of eligible voters...
You didn't vote against a candidate, you
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John Young wrote:
Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere as the most
fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a term of endearment,
and also admirable role model by some.
Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity.
I routinely call people
Fair enough. Canada is a role model for the US, as is the US for
the world: nobody is wanted unless they are willing to pay for the
mistakes and messes the locals have made, or best, work for
starvation wages, usually off the books, long the prime source of
penal-grade labor in the Echelon
--
Peter Gutmann wrote:
That's the traditional Agincourt interpretation. More modern ones
(backed up by actual tests with arrows of the time against armour,
in which the relatively soft metal of the arrows was rather
ineffective against the armour)
I find this very hard to believe. Post
At 11:42 AM -0800 11/6/04, John Young wrote:
capitalist
There you go, speaking marxist again...
;-)
Cheers,
RAH
Capitalism is totalitarian for economics...
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James Donald:
I routinely call people like you nazi-commies.
Eugen Leitl wrote:
How novel and interesting.
Cut the rhetoric, get on with the program. Cypherpunks write code.
I also write code, unlike people like you.
See for example www.echeque.com/Kong
--digsig
James A.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/politics/07court.html?partner=ALTAVISTA1pagewanted=print
We're going to get some extremist anti-abortion, pro-internment,
anti-1A, anti-4A, anti-5A, anti-14A, right-wing wacko.
Imagine Ashcroft as Chief Justice.
I really hope I'm wrong.
What happens when the
At 8:08 PM +0100 11/6/04, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Cypherpunks write code.
Right. That's it. Wanna write me a bearer mint? For free?
;-)
Cheers,
RAH
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R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The US made a bundle from WW1 and WW2 warfare, in both
cases being rescued from an economic slump, and some have
argued the US delayed sending troops as long as possible to
extend the demand for supplies, supplies which appeared to
always be insufficient but enough to keep the warring parties
It sounds suspiciously like an int16 issue.
32K is close enough to 32767 after which a 16 bit integer goes negative
when incremented. Which is odd because it should roll over, not count
backwards.
perhaps they did something like this:
note the use of abs on reporting.
int16
Fun bits to read, somewhat related to Owell and the perceived notional
differences between various... extremists.
http://www.campusprogram.com/reference/en/wikipedia/f/fa/fascism.html
http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/site/opinion/essays/storgaard1.html
At 9:31 AM -0800 11/6/04, James Donald wrote:
As George Orwell observed, anyone who thinks there is a significant
difference between nazis and commies is in favor of one or the other.
I'm going to have hunt that one up for my .sig file.
Thank you.
Cheers,
RAH
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At 6:25 PM + 11/6/04, Justin wrote:
65m/141m = 46% of registered voters voted for Bush
Of course, you can invert the math and say the same about Kerry, plus
Bush's 3-something million margin, I'm afraid. Hell, Rush said
exactly the same thing on
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When asked about
the issue that most
influenced their vote, voters were given the option
of saying moral
values. But that phrase can mean anything - or
nothing. Who doesn't vote
on moral values? If you ask an inept question, you
get a misleading
(Guys, this has drifted out of crypto into finance, so I
have a feeling that it will disappear of the crypto list.
But the topics that are raised are interesting and important
enough to carry on, I think.)
[Hal:]
Interesting. In the e-gold case, both parties have the same bank,
e-gold
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and seller is often the rule and there is no central authority to
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trusted third parties: the shipping line,
J.A. Terranson wrote:
The fact is that those who did not vote effectively voted for Shrub. You
are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem. Inaction
is not good enough.
This would only be true if the President were elected by popular vote.
In states where one candidate
--
Peter Gutmann wrote:
That's the traditional Agincourt interpretation. More modern ones
(backed up by actual tests with arrows of the time against armour,
in which the relatively soft metal of the arrows was rather
ineffective against the armour)
You have this garbled.
According to
- Original Message -
From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:21 AM
[Hal:]
Interesting. In the e-gold case, both parties have the same bank,
e-gold ltd. The
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