Bumazhkas

On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 08:28:54AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 07:03:14PM +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: That's a matter of course. At the moment the Men with Bumazhkas come, it's too late to act. Bumazhkas? I thought I was pretty familiar with most

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

liked those CZ Model 52 pistols and Model 32 subguns in .30Mauser. Loaded hot with a teflon coated bullet they should punch thru armor well. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Bumazhkas

On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 08:28:54AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 07:03:14PM +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: That's a matter of course. At the moment the Men with Bumazhkas come, it's too late to act. Bumazhkas? I thought I was pretty familiar with most

Re: UBL is George Washington

. And, in fact, wasn't that exactly what the jihad in Afghanistan was all about -- killing commies? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Re: UBL is George Washington

. And, in fact, wasn't that exactly what the jihad in Afghanistan was all about -- killing commies? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Re: Shuffling to the sound of the Morlocks' dinner bell

. http://www.prwatch.org/ So did Amy Goodman of Democracy Now. http://democracynow.org/ -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Re: Shuffling to the sound of the Morlocks' dinner bell

. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Re: Shuffling to the sound of the Morlocks' dinner bell

. http://www.prwatch.org/ So did Amy Goodman of Democracy Now. http://democracynow.org/ -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Re: Shuffling to the sound of the Morlocks' dinner bell

. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Re: Citizen Chics Must Put Out

_ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Re: Fact checking

On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 09:05:32PM -0400, Damian Gerow wrote: Thus spake Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [27/04/04 17:18]: :All of the above, but mostly door-to-door voter registration. When you : consider that both klinton and dubbya were elected with only 13%-14% of the : eligible

Re: Fact checking

On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:20:06PM -0400, Damian Gerow wrote: Thus spake Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 19:25]: :And the local elections are no prime pickings either, it's crooks to the left : of us, crooks to the right of us, ahead and behind, above and below. Extremely

Re: Fact checking

On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:20:06PM -0400, Damian Gerow wrote: Thus spake Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 19:25]: :And the local elections are no prime pickings either, it's crooks to the left : of us, crooks to the right of us, ahead and behind, above and below. Extremely

Re: Fact checking

and get them to vote. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Re: Fact checking

and get them to vote. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship

to wife isn't? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hoka hey!

Altered phone cards?

Anybody heard of this before, or know how it's done? And Mr Tanaka has good reason to be wary. He and his three friends are illegally selling phone cards that have been altered so they can be re-used. http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/671844D1-95C9-4BEF-903C-155B2E948C59.htm -- Harmon

Muslim Rivals Unite In Baghdad Uprising

afternoon, residents said. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56091-2004Apr6.html -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Hokay hey!

And who was it saying those terrible Sunnis would be isolated?

Shiites hit a home run! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3599381.stm -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

And who was it saying those terrible Sunnis would be isolated?

Shiites hit a home run! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3599381.stm -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Powell admits mobile weapons factory scam

.htm Ira Chernus is Professor of Religious Studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: [Politech] John Gilmore on the homeless, RFID tags, and ki ttens

of old trappers I've know tell me they've eaten bobcat and lynx and that they were tasty, and a lot like chicken. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Shock waves from Fallujah

, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: [Politech] John Gilmore on the homeless, RFID tags, and ki ttens

of old trappers I've know tell me they've eaten bobcat and lynx and that they were tasty, and a lot like chicken. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Shock waves from Fallujah

, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: The Gilmore Dimissal

with facts -- these people aren't stupid, they are venal, they are evil. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Sttop Spreading Hatred

of the innocent civilians. S.A.R _ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http

Re: Sttop Spreading Hatred

of the innocent civilians. S.A.R _ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http

Re: corporate vs. state, TD's education

should make some laws and eliminate these big evil corporations. Or maybe it is (I Why not? If Thomas Jefferson and George Washington had their way, corporations would be illegal in the US. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: corporate vs. state, TD's education

On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 05:27:14PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Harmon Seaver wrote: Nonsense -- corporations are not humans, they have zero rights. Unfortunately, there are a whole slew of Supreme Court decisions that say otherwise - mostly applying the 14th

Re: corporate vs. state

. If a voluntary association injures me, each and every person involved in it should be liable. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: corporate vs. state, TD's education

others. Does a parent have any more right to act on behalf of others than a company does? -- No, why should they? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: corporate vs. state

On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:43:53PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 12:39 AM 3/26/04 -, Frog wrote: Harmon Seaver wrote: each and every person involved in it should be liable. If a member of a club, to which you belong, commits an act of violence, are you liable for that act

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

and in the kitchen. Otherwise, an example like Martha -- my god, who knows what women might do next? I'll stop believing this when Kenny-Boy goes to jail. Or actually, considering the humoungous difference of level of harm -- gets executed. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http

Re: MannWorld vs. BrinWorld

On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:12:34PM -0500, An Metet wrote: Robert Hettinga forwards: By concentrating sensing and data storage on the body, a wearable computer allows its user to ``control his own butt.'' The user determines when and where his gas is released and how much to trust the

Feds win rights to war protesters records.

Also, activists subpoened to grand jury. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20040207/ap_on_re_us/activist_investigation -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Feds win rights to war protesters records.

Also, activists subpoened to grand jury. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20040207/ap_on_re_us/activist_investigation -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Encrypted phones/scramblers, etc.

Someone was just trying to tell me that the FCC, et al, won't allow encrypted phones or even the old style scramblers to be sold anymore. Have there been any moves in that direction? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Encrypted phones/scramblers, etc.

Someone was just trying to tell me that the FCC, et al, won't allow encrypted phones or even the old style scramblers to be sold anymore. Have there been any moves in that direction? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

-- to the wild applause of the rest of the Earth. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

... But from your tone of voice, I'd say you've probably castrated yourself years ago. No, I have offspring. But what makes you think I'm human? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

for the soul, and what ails ye. Also often a fairly sociable event, at least among my volken. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

swastika

Ah, now I finally understand why the PRC is so down on the Falun Gong. 8-) http://www.falundafa.org/eng/falun.htm -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

swastika

Ah, now I finally understand why the PRC is so down on the Falun Gong. 8-) http://www.falundafa.org/eng/falun.htm -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: unsub from lne

Yes, thanks a lot Eric, lne was a good job. On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:08:30AM -0800, Eric Murray wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:42:56AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected

Re: unsub from lne

On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:48:17AM -0800, Tim May wrote: On Dec 29, 2003, at 9:42 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. Tried sending it thru a remailer

unsub from lne

Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. Tried sending it thru a remailer but don't know if majordomo will go for that. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: unsub from lne

On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:48:17AM -0800, Tim May wrote: On Dec 29, 2003, at 9:42 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. Tried sending it thru a remailer

Re: unsub from lne

Yes, thanks a lot Eric, lne was a good job. On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:08:30AM -0800, Eric Murray wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:42:56AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

assasins after enemies abroad, laughed at anyone who objected You don't really know that any of that is true, you only know what the current message is from the Ministry of Truth. Twenty years ago they were applauding him and giving him bio/chem/nuc weapons. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

story. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

US Attorney General http://www.thesunmagazine.org/bully.html Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:10:35AM +0100, Tarapia Tapioco wrote: Harmon Seaver wrote: This isn't a ski mask burglary. We KNOW Saddam ruled Iraq. We KNOW what crimes were committed. Simple syllogism. No we don't. We only know what the propaganda mills have told us. Twenty years ago

Saddam drugged says daughter.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3324021.stm And probably they're using drugs to interview Saddam, which explains the quick following busts. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

assasins after enemies abroad, laughed at anyone who objected You don't really know that any of that is true, you only know what the current message is from the Ministry of Truth. Twenty years ago they were applauding him and giving him bio/chem/nuc weapons. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

story. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

US Attorney General http://www.thesunmagazine.org/bully.html Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

well recall a university english lit prof almost accusing me of plagarism when I wrote a piece mimicking Faulkner and doing so well enough that the prof actually started looking thru his works trying to find it. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

well recall a university english lit prof almost accusing me of plagarism when I wrote a piece mimicking Faulkner and doing so well enough that the prof actually started looking thru his works trying to find it. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Speaking of Reason

in order to take it over and change it to their own point of view. Usually secretly, and usually more than one person. It's a practice carried out by both right and left. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Type III Anonymous message

message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: cypherpunks discussions

drag. As for the lne.com blocks on spammers, that bit me too. When my dsl line ip changes, sometimes I can post to lne, sometimes I can't. So I just subscribe to lne to get the spam free postings, and then post to minder.net. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Type III Anonymous message

message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: cypherpunks discussions

drag. As for the lne.com blocks on spammers, that bit me too. When my dsl line ip changes, sometimes I can post to lne, sometimes I can't. So I just subscribe to lne to get the spam free postings, and then post to minder.net. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: [p2p-hackers] Peer-to-Peer Journal (P2PJ) CFP (fwd from sam@neurogrid.com)

sure that profs there had gotten *written* permission to put their previously published papers on their websites (which we ran for them), and even pictures of book covers. It most definitely wasn't automatic, at least not with most publishers. (rest snipped) -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix

Re: [p2p-hackers] Peer-to-Peer Journal (P2PJ) CFP (fwd from sam@neurogrid.com)

sure that profs there had gotten *written* permission to put their previously published papers on their websites (which we ran for them), and even pictures of book covers. It most definitely wasn't automatic, at least not with most publishers. (rest snipped) -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:06:43PM +, ken wrote: Thomas Shaddack wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Neil Johnson wrote: Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! -- Ben Franklin And if they are all armed ? They

Re: Panther's FileVault can damage data

-X thing is like that -- they deliberately, after having all the betas running on older powermacs, wrote the production code to exclude anything but new G-3 based machines. Don't get me wrong, I like Apple and their hardware, but some of their policies suck. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix

Re: Panther's FileVault can damage data

-X thing is like that -- they deliberately, after having all the betas running on older powermacs, wrote the production code to exclude anything but new G-3 based machines. Don't get me wrong, I like Apple and their hardware, but some of their policies suck. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix

Re: If you DON'T use encryption, you help the terrorists win

is sure a lot easier. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: If you DON'T use encryption, you help the terrorists win

is sure a lot easier. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: If you didn't pay for it, you've stolen it!

schools for workers kids to ensure the loyalty of their future workers. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: If you didn't pay for it, you've stolen it!

schools for workers kids to ensure the loyalty of their future workers. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Then End of Western Civilization

, caused not by war or economics, but by a suble alteration of consciousnessthe internal destruction of Western society will have reached such a pass that most of your resources will be concentrated on managing loonies. 8-) -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Then End of Western Civilization

, caused not by war or economics, but by a suble alteration of consciousnessthe internal destruction of Western society will have reached such a pass that most of your resources will be concentrated on managing loonies. 8-) -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger

considered walking into that tiger's den. At 10:04 PM 9/9/03 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: We have three or four distinct groups of cats living here that we feed. Two in the house, two in the garage/greenhouse who once lived in the house but could not resolve the dominance issue between

Re: Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger

considered walking into that tiger's den. At 10:04 PM 9/9/03 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: We have three or four distinct groups of cats living here that we feed. Two in the house, two in the garage/greenhouse who once lived in the house but could not resolve the dominance issue between

Re: cats

On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:40:57PM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 08:12 AM 9/9/03 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 11:15:31AM -0700, Tim May wrote: Dogs can't conceive of a group of cats without an alpha cat. --David Honig, on the Cypherpunks list, 2001-11

cats

of house cats as it is of lions. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Terror Reading

the peace or drunk and disorderly. So, of course, that's what they are using the unpatriot act for. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Terror Reading

the peace or drunk and disorderly. So, of course, that's what they are using the unpatriot act for. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Slashdot | Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs (fwd)

://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/08/25/2248224.shtml?tid=103tid=98tid=99 -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com www.open-forge.com -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Slashdot | Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs (fwd)

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 04:16:32PM +0100, Jim Dixon wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: I don't get it -- exactly what do they think they would be taxing? 9% of what? The bits and bytes that flow thru? The owners already paid a sales tax on the hardware, or is this like

Re: Slashdot | Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs (fwd)

://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/08/25/2248224.shtml?tid=103tid=98tid=99 -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com www.open-forge.com -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Slashdot | Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs (fwd)

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 04:16:32PM +0100, Jim Dixon wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: I don't get it -- exactly what do they think they would be taxing? 9% of what? The bits and bytes that flow thru? The owners already paid a sales tax on the hardware, or is this like

Re: domestic terrorism, fat lazy amerikans ducks

firebombs in restaurants is terrorism. http://www.activistcash.com has some introductory material on how PETA is connected with ALF, ELF, etc. Patrick -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: domestic terrorism, fat lazy amerikans ducks

firebombs in restaurants is terrorism. http://www.activistcash.com has some introductory material on how PETA is connected with ALF, ELF, etc. Patrick -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: US soldiers in Iraq held against their will

On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 02:14:29PM -0400, Paul Hart wrote: On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 09:09 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: It seems that the military is claiming that we are in a national emergency and they can do whatever they want, despite laws to the contrary. You

National Emergency?

So how much of the Constitution gets shredded by Bush's declaration of a national emergency right after 9/11, and how long can he maintain that. I mean, I realize the the Constitution/bill of rights is pretty much gone anyway, but ... -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http

National Emergency?

So how much of the Constitution gets shredded by Bush's declaration of a national emergency right after 9/11, and how long can he maintain that. I mean, I realize the the Constitution/bill of rights is pretty much gone anyway, but ... -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http

Re: US soldiers in Iraq held against their will

On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 02:14:29PM -0400, Paul Hart wrote: On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 09:09 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: It seems that the military is claiming that we are in a national emergency and they can do whatever they want, despite laws to the contrary. You

Re: National Emergency?

that such emergency continues, each House of Congress shall meet to consider a vote on a joint resolution to determine whether that emergency shall be terminated. Funny, I've never heard or read anything about them doing this. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: US soldiers in Iraq held against their will

, that the invasion was all about oil, etc, and weren't willing to go. It seems that the military is claiming that we are in a national emergency and they can do whatever they want, despite laws to the contrary. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: US soldiers in Iraq held against their will

On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 10:37:15PM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 02:33 PM 8/17/03 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Just heard about this local guy who reluctantly went to Iraq because he was in the reserves, now his contract is up (as of 7/31) and they won't let him out. Did he

Re: US soldiers in Iraq held against their will

they have to release him and can't extend his hitch. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

US soldiers in Iraq held against their will

Drive Suite B Fond du Lac, WI 54937 Tel: 920/922-1180 Toll-free in Wisconsin: 800/242-4883 -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

war Crimes

a note: If you want your family released, turn yourself in. Such tactics are justified, he said. There obviously is very, very little difference anymore between the US gov't and the Third Reich anymore. Read the whole article, it's nauseating. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http

Re: US soldiers in Iraq held against their will

On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 03:21:43PM -0700, Tim May wrote: On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 01:43 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 02:04:09PM -0700, Tim May wrote: On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: Just heard about this local guy who reluctantly

Re: US soldiers in Iraq held against their will

On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 10:37:15PM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 02:33 PM 8/17/03 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Just heard about this local guy who reluctantly went to Iraq because he was in the reserves, now his contract is up (as of 7/31) and they won't let him out. Did he

Re: US soldiers in Iraq held against their will

they have to release him and can't extend his hitch. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

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