Re: US health care,a winner for Hillary in 04?

2003-01-30 Thread Sten Thaning
Quoting James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Other countries (notably Sweden, to which the
  USA is always being compared) don't count a child as born until it
  has reached a certain age (three weeks in Sweden). Guess when most
  infant deaths occur?
 
 Interesting datum.  Could you give a source for this.  If true, needs 
 wide publicity, since we web search for infant mortality and Sweden 
 gives a zillion hits, all saying what you would expect.

I would also like to see a source for the claim, as this is something I've 
never heard before.

According to SCB, the Swedish official department of statistics, the definition 
of infant mortality is all deaths which occur before the child is one year 
old. 
I couldn't find that definition in English on the department's web page, 
though. The Swedish definition is in 
http://www.scb.se/statinfo/1999/Be0101.asp
(under the term spädbarnsdödlighet)

I did find an English translation of the definition of a live birth, though.
http://www.scb.se/publkat/filer/be79sa0201%5F01.pdf
Section 3, Definitions and concepts

  A live birth refers to a newborn who after the birth has breathed or showed 
any other evidence of life such as active hearthbeat, pulsation in the 
umbilical cord or definite movement of volontary muscles. The definition is 
valid regardess of the duration of pregnancy and the maturity of the child.
   A stillbirth is a newborn who has died before or during delivery and after 
teh end of the 28th gestational week calculated from the first day of the 
latest normal menstruation. If there is uncertainty regarding gestational age, 
the length of the foetus is an important factor in the assessment. If the 
length of foetus is at least 35 centimeters, it will generally be counted as a 
child.

It would seem as we indeed count the child as born directly from, well, birth...

 - Sten




Re: US health care,a winner for Hillary in 04?

2003-01-30 Thread Sten Thaning
Quoting James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Other countries (notably Sweden, to which the
  USA is always being compared) don't count a child as born until it
  has reached a certain age (three weeks in Sweden). Guess when most
  infant deaths occur?
 
 Interesting datum.  Could you give a source for this.  If true, needs 
 wide publicity, since we web search for infant mortality and Sweden 
 gives a zillion hits, all saying what you would expect.

I would also like to see a source for the claim, as this is something I've 
never heard before.

According to SCB, the Swedish official department of statistics, the definition 
of infant mortality is all deaths which occur before the child is one year 
old. 
I couldn't find that definition in English on the department's web page, 
though. The Swedish definition is in 
http://www.scb.se/statinfo/1999/Be0101.asp
(under the term spädbarnsdödlighet)

I did find an English translation of the definition of a live birth, though.
http://www.scb.se/publkat/filer/be79sa0201%5F01.pdf
Section 3, Definitions and concepts

  A live birth refers to a newborn who after the birth has breathed or showed 
any other evidence of life such as active hearthbeat, pulsation in the 
umbilical cord or definite movement of volontary muscles. The definition is 
valid regardess of the duration of pregnancy and the maturity of the child.
   A stillbirth is a newborn who has died before or during delivery and after 
teh end of the 28th gestational week calculated from the first day of the 
latest normal menstruation. If there is uncertainty regarding gestational age, 
the length of the foetus is an important factor in the assessment. If the 
length of foetus is at least 35 centimeters, it will generally be counted as a 
child.

It would seem as we indeed count the child as born directly from, well, birth...

 - Sten




RE: Detectable cash notes a fantasy

2002-04-11 Thread thaning

 Go and read 'Repent Harlequin! Cried the Tick-Tock Man' by PK Dick for a
 particularly slackless society with this technology.

Might be easier to find if you substitute Harlan Ellison as the author, though.

 - Sten




Re: out of the box

2002-04-05 Thread thaning

Citerar Michael Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 weird.  I was told this when I was in sweeden, as an explaination for
 the basic niceness of sweedes - ie, that they recieved in school basic
 emotional education which enabled them to deal with difficult people and
 situations.
 
 true/not true ?

The basic niceness of Swedes? Well, that characteristic is up there with the 
basic swimming ability of a large traffic light...

Seriously, I went to Swedish school/university for 17 years, starting in 1982. 
If there ever were any emotional education classes, I never noticed. Hm. So 
*that's* why I am evil!

 - Sten




Re: out of the box

2002-04-04 Thread thaning

Citerar Michael Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 In Sweeden basic emotional education for all cuts social problems down
 to a minscule amount. 

Sweden has a basic emotional education for all? How come they never told me 
that? 

 - Sten (born and raised in Sweden)