Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-27 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 3/24/2004 2:02:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, the point is, as Duncan Frissell has always said on this list, when confronted with cops of any kind, shut up, and lawyer up. Period. I don't say Jack to any government worker, even the Census

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-27 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 3/24/2004 2:02:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, the point is, as Duncan Frissell has always said on this list, when confronted with cops of any kind, shut up, and lawyer up. Period. I don't say Jack to any government worker, even the Census

Re: Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI)

2004-03-26 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:30 PM -0500 3/24/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JUSTICE? Yawn. Plonk... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect

Re: Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI)

2004-03-25 Thread Tyler Durden
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:30:17 -0500 [snide preposterous presumptions deleted to save space] In response to R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did not in any

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread baudmax23
Well, Obvously, the policeman is NOT your friend. However (not to excuse, only to point out the reality): Most people in general, are spineless sheep, easily cowed by anybody in a suit-badge combo. I have nothing to say and let THEM prove whatever it is they are trying to frame you for.

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:28 AM -0800 3/24/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Because she got charged with *lying* to a fed when she was *not* under oath. So, the point is, as Duncan Frissell has always said on this list, when confronted with cops of any kind, shut up, and lawyer up. Period. I expect you can be nice

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Tyler Durden
and Dennis Kozlowskis are being unfairly targeted... At least it's food for thought, even if you puke it up. -TD From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:37:58 -0800

Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI)

2004-03-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 2:30 PM -0500 3/24/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: movement bZZZT. -10 pts., Hackneyed Socialist Cliche. unjust state Bzzt. -10 pts., Bad grammar. Redundant phrase. eat the rich... Bzzt. -20 pts., Innumeracy, Economic ignorance. marketing is

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 04:01:55PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Its a sign of John's early Alzheimers, when he lets his wealthwrath get in the way of his one-time pristine appreciation of civil liberties. Well, I don't know Variola...I don't actually see much in that post that violates

RE: Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI)

2004-03-24 Thread Tyler Durden
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:49:48 -0500 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 2:30 PM -0500 3/24/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: movement bZZZT. -10 pts., Hackneyed Socialist

Re: Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI)

2004-03-24 Thread baudmax23
[snide preposterous presumptions deleted to save space] In response to R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did not in any way or form, either explicitly much less implicitly, make any claim for the expropriation of money from wealthy persons in any form, much less by the state. Much as you'd

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Justin
Major Variola (ret) (2004-03-24 18:28Z) wrote: The only reason to speak to feds or cold-calling police is counter intel, learn what they're interested in. And then publish that. That is a very dangerous game, but it may soon become the only option. It's only a matter of time before remaining

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Gil Hamilton
If they want to do some good, how about investigating these criminals? http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/0304/23senators.html Have to confess I'm a little confused, though. On the one hand, the article insists they broke no laws; on the other, it says they trade on privileged

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 06:53 PM 3/23/04 -0800, John Young wrote: Why pity Martha Stewart, so far she's escaped the pokey, Because she got charged with *lying* to a fed when she was *not* under oath. The lesson is real. The ordinary pig on the street --not just a fed-- can lie to you, and bust you if you return

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:28 AM -0800 3/24/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Because she got charged with *lying* to a fed when she was *not* under oath. So, the point is, as Duncan Frissell has always said on this list, when confronted with cops of any kind, shut up, and lawyer up. Period. I expect you can be nice

[osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-23 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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[osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-23 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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