Re: Cypherpunks response to viral stimuli

2004-02-03 Thread Morlock Elloi
Can a TLA please give some sign here, any sign - just ack that you know the list exists, otherwise the legitimacy of cpunks is definitely going down the drain. Looks like a Berlin wall syndrome. = end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows:

Re: Cypherpunks response to viral stimuli

2004-02-03 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 05:23:02PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: Five or ten years ago, when the Feds were still pretending to be in control of crypto, crypto enthusiasts were still a threat - these days you can pick up VPN boxes at the grocery store, and if they still care about us, they're

Re: Cypherpunks response to viral stimuli

2004-02-03 Thread sunder
Tyler Durden wrote: And in case it's not clear, I'm suggesting that it may be useful for them to deliberately create a fake virus that is easily detectable, and so cull the bounce messages. Right, why should they do something passive that doesn't tip their hand and allows them to collect the

Re: Cypherpunks response to viral stimuli

2004-02-03 Thread Tyler Durden
of and plugging any holes that become evident. That assymetry is exactly what crypto is, in a nutshell. -TD From: sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cypherpunks response to viral stimuli Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 13:28:47 -0500

Cypherpunks response to viral stimuli

2004-02-02 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, I'm still wondering... Could a TLA or other group, wanting to know who was lurking or otherwise subscribed to a list (such as cypherpunks) deliberately craft a virus that was easy to detect, for the purposes of having the automated email reply systems out that subscriber? And then, is

Re: Cypherpunks response to viral stimuli

2004-02-02 Thread petard
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 04:27:04PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Well, I'm still wondering... Could a TLA or other group, wanting to know who was lurking or otherwise subscribed to a list (such as cypherpunks) deliberately craft a virus that was easy to detect, for the purposes of having the

Re: Cypherpunks response to viral stimuli

2004-02-02 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then, is it possible to create some kind of filter that stops these replies? If it's the type of virus that delivers its payload as soon as it's viewed (relying on bugs in MSOE or whatever), then it's possible that such a thing could go undetected,

Re: Cypherpunks response to viral stimuli

2004-02-02 Thread petard
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 04:27:04PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Well, I'm still wondering... Could a TLA or other group, wanting to know who was lurking or otherwise subscribed to a list (such as cypherpunks) deliberately craft a virus that was easy to detect, for the purposes of having the