Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
Tim May wrote: My friends and I have been joking for a while about how we'll need to buy 22-inch LCD monitors, like the Apple Cinema Display, just to be able to see content that isn't advertising. You mean you don't have a 21 monitor already? I was wondering at what resolution you

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, August 7, 2001, at 08:57 AM, Eric Murray wrote: On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:51:57AM -0400, Riad S. Wahby wrote: Ray Dillinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple answer: turn off javascript and java. It is generally not used except to make ads more annoying. Certain browsers

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Eric Murray
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:51:57AM -0400, Riad S. Wahby wrote: Ray Dillinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple answer: turn off javascript and java. It is generally not used except to make ads more annoying. Certain browsers (*ahem* Konqueror) allow you to just disable the window.open()

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, August 7, 2001, at 12:10 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: Tim May wrote: My friends and I have been joking for a while about how we'll need to buy 22-inch LCD monitors, like the Apple Cinema Display, just to be able to see content that isn't advertising. You mean you don't

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Ray Dillinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us still use it, but we tend not to recommend it to anyone - it has become fairly obscure and, to be honest, lots of webpages suck pretty hard when viewed through lynx. I find it particularly handy though as a route around some firewalls.

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2001-08-08 Thread Trei, Peter
From: Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Just a note about what's happening with Web advertising. Went to a site, www.imdb.com, to check something about a film. Up popped a doubleclick.net ad. In front of the main page, obscuring it. I clicked the close box. Up popped a _different_ ad.

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread measl
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Petro wrote: (I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) For very limited values of used, yes. Not often, and not by many, but I'd bet it will build under OS X. More than you may think. I personally use it, and I know at

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread David Honig
At 12:34 PM 8/7/01 -0700, Tim May wrote: Interestingly, about 15-20 years ago there was much talk of the 3M machine: a megapixel display, a megabyte of memory, and a million instructions per second. I heard about it as the 1-M machine, with same qualifications. It had to have virtual memory

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread David Honig
At 02:10 PM 8/7/01 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: At some point, junkbuster or equivalent will just become a must have. Of course the top two browser builders won't build it into their next releases...

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: Some of us still use it, but we tend not to recommend it to anyone - it has become fairly obscure and, to be honest, lots of webpages suck pretty hard when viewed through lynx. I Have you tried using Links? find it particularly handy though as a

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Petro
At 9:22 AM -0700 8/7/01, Tim May wrote: (I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) For very limited values of used, yes. Not often, and not by many, but I'd bet it will build under OS X. -- http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html It is

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: (I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) Some of us still use it, but we tend not to recommend it to anyone - it has become fairly obscure and, to be honest, lots of webpages suck pretty hard when viewed through lynx. I find

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: ( I expect 98% of the readers here have no idea what a Symbolics is or was.) Heh. I would cheerfully commit a felony or two to get my hands on a Symbolics Ivory chip fabbed using modern technology and running at a GHz or so. When I was a student, we had

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: To all who have contributed ideas about turning off Java, blah blah, l wasn't really _complaining_ about my personal situation. I was noting the bizarre world of online advertising in which the right third of a page is filled with ads, the top third is

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: (I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) Oh yes. If you can't use it with Lynx, it's probably low on content. Though I've been meaning to change to one of the www modes on top of Emacs. I hear some of them handle Unicode better

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: (Ads could be tied-in to the content, with some light crypto or copright protection. A circumvention of this liight crypto could be a DMCA violation. I would not be surprised to see this already impicated in the DVD cases: that 5 minute period of trailors

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, August 8, 2001, at 11:44 AM, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: (Ads could be tied-in to the content, with some light crypto or copright protection. A circumvention of this liight crypto could be a DMCA violation. I would not be surprised to see this

RE: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Trei, Peter
Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote On Wednesday, August 8, 2001, at 11:44 AM, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: (Ads could be tied-in to the content, with some light crypto or copright protection. A circumvention of this liight crypto could be a DMCA

Re: lynx for mirroring? (Re: Advertisements on Web Pages)

2001-08-08 Thread Gabriel Rocha
,[ On Wed, Aug 08, at 12:41PM, Subcommander Bob wrote: ]-- | Can anyone recommend a better tool? | For wintel? `[ End Quote ]--- It isnt for wintel proper, but you can run wget under cygwin (cygwin.com) and use wget -m which will give you a full mirror

lynx for mirroring? (Re: Advertisements on Web Pages)

2001-08-08 Thread Subcommander Bob
At 10:41 PM 8/7/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) For very limited values of used, yes. Declan once gave a lynx command line that would download a website (recursing) less the images, of course. I found it didn't

Re: lynx for mirroring? (Re: Advertisements on Web Pages)

2001-08-08 Thread georgemw
On 8 Aug 2001, at 12:41, Subcommander Bob wrote: Declan once gave a lynx command line that would download a website (recursing) less the images, of course. I found it didn't preserve file names or directory hierarchy, so it was less useful for mirroring sites I anticipated being oppressed.

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 11:06:05AM -0700, Tim May wrote: (Ads could be tied-in to the content, with some light crypto or copright protection. A circumvention of this liight crypto could be a DMCA violation. I would not be surprised to see this already impicated in the DVD cases: that 5

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some discs disable the FF button and the menu button. You can still skip the ads, but you have to skip each ad individually (with the chapter skip button). I recall usenet discussions citing 6 - 8 ads at the beginning of some discs. I've not had that

RE: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Jonathan Wienke
in the player. Fortunately, most DVD's don't have this annoying feature. - -Original Message- From: Trei, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:29 PM To: 'Tim May' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Advertisements on Web Pages Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-07 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: Just a note about what's happening with Web advertising. Went to a site, www.imdb.com, to check something about a film. Up popped a doubleclick.net ad. In front of the main page, obscuring it. I clicked the close box. Up popped a _different_ ad. I clicked