Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-04 Thread kawaii
From: Malcolm Carlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 16:42 I was shocked to learn Saturday that NASA had not a mechanism to adequately inspect the exterior of the shuttles for damage before the return to earth. The reasons given seem to imply that NASA's ability for

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-04 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 9:42 PM + on 1/19/03, Malcolm Carlock wrote: I must admit it also seems very strange that the shuttle couldn't have been examined while docked to the ISS. It wasn't docked there. It was in a completely different orbit, and higher up to

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-04 Thread R. A. Hettinga
Our messages crossed in the mail, but there's this bit here... At 7:18 PM -0800 on 2/3/03, Tim May wrote: Two crewmen were prepared to to an EVA to fix dislodged cargo/hatch doors, as on every flight to date. The other crew could have transferred in their pressure suits. Ah. Forgot about

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-04 Thread Tim May
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 06:17 PM, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Flying another shuttle to them while people were still alive would have been impossible, of course, so much for a reusable space-truck on a rapid turnaround, and, even if it wasn't, I don't think they even have an airlock aboard

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-04 Thread kawaii
From: Malcolm Carlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 16:42 I was shocked to learn Saturday that NASA had not a mechanism to adequately inspect the exterior of the shuttles for damage before the return to earth. The reasons given seem to imply that NASA's ability for

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-03 Thread Harmon Seaver
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Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-03 Thread Malcolm Carlock
I was shocked to learn Saturday that NASA had not a mechanism to adequately inspect the exterior of the shuttles for damage before the return to earth. The reasons given seem to imply that NASA's ability for EVAs was very limited and did not generally include on most flight the possibility

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-03 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 9:42 PM + on 1/19/03, Malcolm Carlock wrote: I must admit it also seems very strange that the shuttle couldn't have been examined while docked to the ISS. It wasn't docked there. It was in a completely different orbit, and higher up to

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-03 Thread Tim May
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 06:17 PM, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Flying another shuttle to them while people were still alive would have been impossible, of course, so much for a reusable space-truck on a rapid turnaround, and, even if it wasn't, I don't think they even have an airlock aboard

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-03 Thread R. A. Hettinga
Our messages crossed in the mail, but there's this bit here... At 7:18 PM -0800 on 2/3/03, Tim May wrote: Two crewmen were prepared to to an EVA to fix dislodged cargo/hatch doors, as on every flight to date. The other crew could have transferred in their pressure suits. Ah. Forgot about

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-03 Thread Bill Frantz
At 8:27 PM -0800 2/2/03, Steve Schear wrote: As some friends in the U.S. space program had privately predicted, and the New York Times is today reporting, unless the problem with the Shuttle can be quickly identified and convincingly rectified to worried legislators, the International Space

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-03 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:27:06PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: I can't imagine that it would be so difficult to construct a small, remotely-controlled, gyro stabilized, tethered probe that would be carried on all shuttle missions and could be deployed from the cargo bay to closely inspect

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-03 Thread Harmon Seaver
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Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-03 Thread Malcolm Carlock
I was shocked to learn Saturday that NASA had not a mechanism to adequately inspect the exterior of the shuttles for damage before the return to earth. The reasons given seem to imply that NASA's ability for EVAs was very limited and did not generally include on most flight the possibility

Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-02 Thread Steve Schear
As some friends in the U.S. space program had privately predicted, and the New York Times is today reporting, unless the problem with the Shuttle can be quickly identified and convincingly rectified to worried legislators, the International Space Station may have to be moth balled and the NASA

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-02 Thread Tim May
(I am replying to the CP list, but suppressing the name of the poster. He/she sent his/her comments to a recipient list suppressed private distribution. If people send me comments, don't expect to me to just take them in silence. I will, however, suppress the author unless and until too many

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-02 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:27:06PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: I can't imagine that it would be so difficult to construct a small, remotely-controlled, gyro stabilized, tethered probe that would be carried on all shuttle missions and could be deployed from the cargo bay to closely inspect

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-02 Thread Bill Frantz
At 8:27 PM -0800 2/2/03, Steve Schear wrote: As some friends in the U.S. space program had privately predicted, and the New York Times is today reporting, unless the problem with the Shuttle can be quickly identified and convincingly rectified to worried legislators, the International Space

Re: Say goodbye to the ISS

2003-02-02 Thread Tim May
received the message: From: Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Feb 2, 2003 8:27:06 PM US/Pacific To: (Recipient list suppressed) Subject: Say goodbye to the ISS Received: by sphinx (mbox tcmay) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Feb 2 20:40:39 2003) Received: from psmtp.com