Re: Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

2003-02-15 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 05:45 PM, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Heck, go read some Patrick O'Brien Jack Aubrey Books. The Royal Navy earned its own keep with prizes, etc., until long after the Napoleonic wars... Come to think of it, the rise of book-entry settlement cooincides nicely with

Re: Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

2003-02-14 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:28 AM -0500 on 2/14/03, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: How would you distinguish the actions of the Royal Navy from those of ordinary pirates? Just prettier uniforms, better weaponry, and a bitch back in London with a crown on her head, or what? Sounds about right to me. :-) Seriously,

Re: Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

2003-02-14 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 05:45 PM, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Heck, go read some Patrick O'Brien Jack Aubrey Books. The Royal Navy earned its own keep with prizes, etc., until long after the Napoleonic wars... Come to think of it, the rise of book-entry settlement cooincides nicely with

Re: Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

2003-02-14 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
These guys were probably CIA. Now, since they are non-uniformed and not carrying arms visibly, and not engaged in hostilities qualifying under the Geneva Convetions, they are enemy combatants. They don't fall under the Geneva Conventions since they were not in qualifying hostilities. The

Re: Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

2003-02-14 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:28 AM -0500 on 2/14/03, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: How would you distinguish the actions of the Royal Navy from those of ordinary pirates? Just prettier uniforms, better weaponry, and a bitch back in London with a crown on her head, or what? Sounds about right to me. :-) Seriously,

Re: NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
I've been amazed that Bush's handlers didn't straighten him out on nuculur long ago. Why are they trying to keep him looking ignorant? Are you sure they didn't try? :)

Re: Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

2003-02-13 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 10:05 AM -0500 on 2/13/03, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: Is it possible to pull off a project like this in a crypto-anarcho-capitalistic society? It's easy to imagine, whether it's possible, maybe you need bearer transactions :-), a swarm of

Re: Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

2003-02-13 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
These guys were probably CIA. Now, since they are non-uniformed and not carrying arms visibly, and not engaged in hostilities qualifying under the Geneva Convetions, they are enemy combatants. They don't fall under the Geneva Conventions since they were not in qualifying hostilities. The

Re: NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-13 Thread Bill Stewart
By PAUL KRUGMAN George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam Hussein as Churchillian. Short, rude, drunk? As far as that goes, sure, he's Churchillian. But he's not even up to the standards of meet the new Bush, same as the old Bush, fool me...ummm...can't get fooled again;

RE: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Tyler Durden
the countries they beat in war) to the present day. Actually, it occurs to me that the only people who still believe this may be Americans. From: Lucky Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The Wimps of War Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:21:18 -0800 Steve wrote quoting

RE: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Thomas Shaddack
And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum investments required to prevent the population from rising up against their future leaders, why should the U.S. concern itself with making investments in Iraq

Re: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 08:39 AM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum investments required to prevent the population from rising up against their future leaders,

Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

2003-02-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 1:21 AM -0800 on 2/12/03, Lucky Green wrote: And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum investments required to prevent the population from rising up

RE: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread James A. Donald
-- Steve wrote quoting: PAUL KRUGMAN And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a lack of faith in Mr. Bush's staying power a fear that he will wimp out in the aftermath of war, that he won't do what is needed to rebuild Iraq is a large factor in the growing rift

RE: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Lucky Green
Steve wrote quoting: PAUL KRUGMAN And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a lack of faith in Mr. Bush's staying power  a fear that he will wimp out in the aftermath of war, that he won't do what is needed to rebuild Iraq  is a large factor in the growing rift

RE: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Tyler Durden
the countries they beat in war) to the present day. Actually, it occurs to me that the only people who still believe this may be Americans. From: Lucky Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The Wimps of War Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:21:18 -0800 Steve wrote quoting

Re: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 08:39 AM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum investments required to prevent the population from rising up against their future leaders,

RE: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread Thomas Shaddack
And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum investments required to prevent the population from rising up against their future leaders, why should the U.S. concern itself with making investments in Iraq

Degenerate Political Pressure (was RE: The Wimps of War)

2003-02-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 1:21 AM -0800 on 2/12/03, Lucky Green wrote: And this matters how? Why would Bush, or for that matter the Europeans, care about rebuilding (what?) in Iraq? Other than the minimum investments required to prevent the population from rising up

RE: The Wimps of War

2003-02-12 Thread James A. Donald
-- Steve wrote quoting: PAUL KRUGMAN And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a lack of faith in Mr. Bush's staying power a fear that he will wimp out in the aftermath of war, that he won't do what is needed to rebuild Iraq is a large factor in the growing rift

NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-11 Thread Steve Schear
[use login: cyberpunks/cyberpunks] By PAUL KRUGMAN George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam Hussein as Churchillian. Yet his speeches about Iraq  and for that matter about everything else  have been notably lacking in promises of blood, toil, tears and sweat. Has

Re: NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-11 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 03:53 PM, Steve Schear wrote: [use login: cyberpunks/cyberpunks] By PAUL KRUGMAN George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam Hussein as Churchillian. Yet his speeches about Iraq  and for that matter about everything else  have been

NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-11 Thread Steve Schear
[use login: cyberpunks/cyberpunks] By PAUL KRUGMAN George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam Hussein as Churchillian. Yet his speeches about Iraq  and for that matter about everything else  have been notably lacking in promises of blood, toil, tears and sweat. Has