Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-05 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 04:38:04AM -0800, John Young wrote: What's pleasurable about reading the fiction of ideologues like Tim is the smack-down tone of their prejudices. Fake, fake, fake. Nowhere in Tim's spew is the recognition that the largest beneficiaries of government favoritism are

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-05 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 12:45:51PM -0800, Tim May wrote: those working had to work even harder. A vicious circle, much like the one now facing American industry, where more and more workers are claiming bogus disability and where the insurance costs are driving companies out of the country.

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-05 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 10:23:27AM -0500, Michael Kalus wrote: If mankind would act that way we would have been extinct a long time ago. A single human being is a rather weak individual. There isn't much we could have done. ... Even though I do not agree with people sitting on their asses

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-05 Thread John Kelsey
At 12:45 PM 12/31/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: ... I don't claim this is a right implicit in the fabric of space-time, or handed down by Moloch or YHWH or some other supernatural myth-figure. Rather, societies which have taken money from workers to give to others to sit at home and breed or eat

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-05 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 12:58 PM 1/5/04 -0600, Declan McCullagh wrote: With that evidence in hand, the employer calls them up and tells them to be at work the next day -- or be fired. If I were the employer, I wouldn't even give them that second chance. Motivation might be loss of training or worry over lawsuit?

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-05 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:45 PM 12/31/03 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: You do know she's been trying the same scheme for several hundred thousand years, right? As an artist, I think she's in a creative decline. Ebola is picturesque and flashy, but not all that scary unless your funeral rites involve lots of contact

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-05 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 12:45:51PM -0800, Tim May wrote: those working had to work even harder. A vicious circle, much like the one now facing American industry, where more and more workers are claiming bogus disability and where the insurance costs are driving companies out of the country.

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-05 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 12:58 PM 1/5/04 -0600, Declan McCullagh wrote: With that evidence in hand, the employer calls them up and tells them to be at work the next day -- or be fired. If I were the employer, I wouldn't even give them that second chance. Motivation might be loss of training or worry over lawsuit?

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-04 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 01:14:01PM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 01:59:50PM -0500, Sunder wrote: If those are your beliefs, then by all means, set the first example, and go kill yourself. Better yet, sacrifice yourself to your goddess... By doing so, you'll also earn

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism and Hot Negresses

2004-01-04 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:53 PM 12/31/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: You'd dice and slice an African American population, but then again it's from these inner cities that much of popular American culture has arisen (ie, between pro sports, various forms of music and so on...). Is this supposed to be an argument

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-04 Thread John Kelsey
At 10:18 AM 12/31/03 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: It's not that just some humans are useless eaters, it's that all are, and the Goddess Gaia is clearly hard at work trying to rectify this situation with a variety of new bioweapons, i.e., AIDS, ebola, etc. which will soon, I'm sure, reduce the human

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism and Hot Black Chicks

2004-01-04 Thread Tyler Durden
tail back in the day? (ie, aside from I'd like to see you are your infant children stripped of epidermis and dipped in seasalt) From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vengeance Libertarianism and Hot Black Chicks Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:06:29 -0800 On Dec 31

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-02 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:45 PM 12/31/03 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: You do know she's been trying the same scheme for several hundred thousand years, right? As an artist, I think she's in a creative decline. Ebola is picturesque and flashy, but not all that scary unless your funeral rites involve lots of contact

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism and Hot Negresses

2004-01-02 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:53 PM 12/31/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: You'd dice and slice an African American population, but then again it's from these inner cities that much of popular American culture has arisen (ie, between pro sports, various forms of music and so on...). Is this supposed to be an argument

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism and Hot Black Chicks

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Dec 31, 2003, at 5:53 PM, Tyler Durden wrote: PS: Is there any comment that Mr May would like to profer on the issue of having been rejected by some hot black tail back in the day? (ie, aside from I'd like to see you are your infant children stripped of epidermis and dipped in seasalt)

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-01 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 01:14:01PM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 01:59:50PM -0500, Sunder wrote: If those are your beliefs, then by all means, set the first example, and go kill yourself. Better yet, sacrifice yourself to your goddess... By doing so, you'll also earn

Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread Tim May
corporations, except by the choice of that corporation.) Vengeance libertarianism is the rational kind. It will result in 20-40 million of the leeches, the bums, the minority grifters, the so-called aggrieved, the winos, the addicts, all being sent up the chimneys. Hitler had only minor reasons to go

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread John Young
What's pleasurable about reading the fiction of ideologues like Tim is the smack-down tone of their prejudices. Fake, fake, fake. Nowhere in Tim's spew is the recognition that the largest beneficiaries of government favoritism are corporations and wealthy individuals like himself, especially

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread Michael Kalus
, not mine. And not any corporations, except by the choice of that corporation.) Vengeance libertarianism is the rational kind. It will result in 20-40 million of the leeches, the bums, the minority grifters, the so-called aggrieved, the winos, the addicts, all being sent up the chimneys. See

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Tim May wrote: Vengeance libertarianism is the rational kind. It will result in 20-40 million of the leeches, the bums, the minority grifters, the so-called aggrieved, the winos, the addicts, all being sent up the chimneys. It will result in couple dozen (at most

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 12/31/2003 4:44:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nowhere in Tim's spew is the recognition that the largest beneficiaries of government favoritism are corporations and wealthy individuals like himself Government favoritism? It sounds like you don't

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread Harmon Seaver
The real problem is that the human race itself is either an alien species that doesn't belong on this planet, or perhaps just an evolutionary mishap akin to a cancer that has used far more than it's fair share of world resources. It's not that just some humans are useless eaters, it's that all

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread John Kelsey
At 10:18 AM 12/31/03 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: It's not that just some humans are useless eaters, it's that all are, and the Goddess Gaia is clearly hard at work trying to rectify this situation with a variety of new bioweapons, i.e., AIDS, ebola, etc. which will soon, I'm sure, reduce the human

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread John Young
On 31 Dec 2003 at 12:45, Tim May wrote: People like Tyler Durden, James Donald, and John Young are using the tired old cliches about how it is society that paid for business and hence society has some right to take a cut of each transaction between Alice and Bob. No, Tyler, James and John

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread John Young
What's pleasurable about reading the fiction of ideologues like Tim is the smack-down tone of their prejudices. Fake, fake, fake. Nowhere in Tim's spew is the recognition that the largest beneficiaries of government favoritism are corporations and wealthy individuals like himself, especially

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 12/31/2003 4:44:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nowhere in Tim's spew is the recognition that the largest beneficiaries of government favoritism are corporations and wealthy individuals like himself Government favoritism? It sounds like you don't

Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread Tim May
corporations, except by the choice of that corporation.) Vengeance libertarianism is the rational kind. It will result in 20-40 million of the leeches, the bums, the minority grifters, the so-called aggrieved, the winos, the addicts, all being sent up the chimneys. Hitler had only minor reasons to go

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism and Hot Black Chicks

2003-12-31 Thread Tim May
On Dec 31, 2003, at 9:27 AM, Tyler Durden wrote: Nowhere in Tim's spew is the recognition that the largest beneficiaries of government favoritism are corporations and wealthy individuals like himself, especially those associated with the greeders of the defense industry, rather the national

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism and Hot Black Chicks

2003-12-31 Thread Tim May
On Dec 31, 2003, at 10:51 AM, Tim May wrote: Add to that the fact that Mr May seems to lead a fairly bucolic life (from his accounts)...working in his gardens, installing tripwires and landmines and so forth, apparently without worrying about cash or physical needs. So this system has served

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 01:59:50PM -0500, Sunder wrote: If those are your beliefs, then by all means, set the first example, and go kill yourself. Better yet, sacrifice yourself to your goddess... By doing so, you'll also earn yourself a Darwin Award... unless you've already fathered kids...

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 31 Dec 2003 at 12:45, Tim May wrote: People like Tyler Durden, James Donald, and John Young are using the tired old cliches about how it is society that paid for business and hence society has some right to take a cut of each transaction between Alice and Bob. The proposition that I

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2003-12-31 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 03:48:21PM -0500, Sunder wrote: No, I have offspring. But what makes you think I'm human? Ok, so, you're not human, you're a lunatic. Well, with an emphasis on the luna ... Howl at the moon much lately? As a matter of fact, yes. Good for the