Re: cypherpunks discussions
At 11:24 AM 12/8/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: No, I think few topics on the Cypherpunks list are taken private. My reasons are two-fold: First, to get them to stop lurking and participate. Second, to work up the energy to compose an essay (or mini-essay, whatever), I need some motivation. I am not energetic about It can also be imprudent, as in a free trip to a grand jury in a distant land, possibly with you fronting the govt the money for the trip. All to hear you mention the Bill of Rights, repeatedly, of course. Neophytes are encouraged to look up Jim Bell, Declan, John Young, etc.
Re: cypherpunks discussions
At 11:24 AM 12/8/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: No, I think few topics on the Cypherpunks list are taken private. My reasons are two-fold: First, to get them to stop lurking and participate. Second, to work up the energy to compose an essay (or mini-essay, whatever), I need some motivation. I am not energetic about It can also be imprudent, as in a free trip to a grand jury in a distant land, possibly with you fronting the govt the money for the trip. All to hear you mention the Bill of Rights, repeatedly, of course. Neophytes are encouraged to look up Jim Bell, Declan, John Young, etc.
Re: cypherpunks discussions
hi,
Asking questions is part of learning. Unless one
learns how is he expected to participate and make once
in a while intelliget discussions?
Give noobs some space and time to learn and over time
they will contribute to the list.
I think when I was a kid, it took me quite a few
months to learn to walk. I beleive you also learned to
walk taking as much time as did. But nobody chopped
off my leg or your leg when we couldn't walk.
Sarath.
--- Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for you, I have dumped on you because most of
your posts to the list
look a lot like you are asking for help on a
homework problem or have
just semi-randomly pulled an example out of a crypto
or algebra book
and have decided to participate in the list by
asking if anyone knows
the answer to some puzzle.
hi,
Table shown is completed to define 'associative'
binary operation * on S={a,b,c,d}.
...
So can (a*d)*d=a*(d*d)=d considered as associative
over * for this case as per definition?
and
hi,
If we are to convert a k-bit integer n to a base b
number,it takes us O(log n) if the base b is a power
...
Is there an algorithm with time complexity O(log n)
which allows such conversion to base b ,when b is
not
a power of 2?
are just two of your more recent examples.
Now if you had told us you were implementing a
crypto system for use in
India (where I think you are from...), and had run
into a tough
problem, these might be interesting for people to
comment on.
A more fruitful sort of post might be for you to
But to post snippets of problems out of textbooks is
NOT participation
in the topics of the list. Think about it.
I wish you no ill-will, but you should find ways to
participate which
suggest you are actually reading what others are
saying and giving your
own views or responses to them.
__
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New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
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Re: cypherpunks discussions
I find it strange that some people here so often wants to intimidate those that dares to ask some questions. Eric put it very well in his post about dicksizewar. Very true indeed. I find it very *l*a*m*e* to all the time tell people to RTFM when something comes up that happened to be have been dealt with like five years ago.
Re: cypherpunks discussions
Nomen Nescio wrote: I find it strange that some people here so often wants to intimidate those that dares to ask some questions. Eric put it very well in his post about dicksizewar. Very true indeed. I find it very *l*a*m*e* to all the time tell people to RTFM when something comes up that happened to be have been dealt with like five years ago. Brain rot is the cause of impatience with what is mistakenly perceived to be repetition of old stuff. But brain rot leads to wars which pointlessly kill young people by the thousands, so watch out believing what the brain pre-dead spout as wisdom. Old battles refought by subservience to faulty memory is what got us into Iraq, only the latest conceit of wise ones who ache to impose their will on the world, deep inside understanding they are dying and will never accomplish what they set out to do years before. This accounts for the vainglorious repetition of past accomplishments, and worse, aggrieved insults, real or fanciful (again, failing memory mixes the two with truth abandoned). Fortunately most of the pre-dead don't have access to the levers of power and go to the grave without a blip, save grossing out grandkids with tales of doom and gloom. Still, if you put up with the grey-matter meltdown you might get your hands on the mattress savings -- and all the near dead stuff war booty for the endless trip upcoming, being certain their enemies will pursue for all eternity as they will the bastards that kept them from glorious immortal recognition. Eternally Young sez history sucks, history in the making moreso. Lose perspective or you're doomed to die before your time. Reason is death welcomed.
Re: cypherpunks discussions
On Dec 9, 2003, at 4:57 AM, John Young wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: I find it strange that some people here so often wants to intimidate those that dares to ask some questions. Eric put it very well in his post about dicksizewar. Very true indeed. I find it very *l*a*m*e* to all the time tell people to RTFM when something comes up that happened to be have been dealt with like five years ago. Brain rot is the cause of impatience with what is mistakenly perceived to be repetition of old stuff. But brain rot leads to wars which pointlessly kill young people by the thousands, so watch out believing what the brain pre-dead spout as wisdom. PLONK. I've had it with years of these e.e. cummings bits of zero content. --Tim May
Re: cypherpunks discussions
On Dec 8, 2003, at 11:13 PM, Sarad AV wrote: hi, Asking questions is part of learning. Unless one learns how is he expected to participate and make once in a while intelliget discussions? 1. You never contribute anything that indicates you have actually learned. 2. Your questions, such as the ones I gave as examples of your recent ones, are phrased as if they were lifted directly from algebra and number theory books. The conclusions are obvious. You are either a bot or a noob. Give noobs some space and time to learn and over time they will contribute to the list. Yep, a noob, whatever that is. Start contributing or leave. You've been posting textbook paragraphs and asking us to fill in the next line for way too many months. --Tim May
Re: cypherpunks discussions
Nomen Nescio wrote: I find it strange that some people here so often wants to intimidate those that dares to ask some questions. Eric put it very well in his post about dicksizewar. Very true indeed. I find it very *l*a*m*e* to all the time tell people to RTFM when something comes up that happened to be have been dealt with like five years ago. Brain rot is the cause of impatience with what is mistakenly perceived to be repetition of old stuff. But brain rot leads to wars which pointlessly kill young people by the thousands, so watch out believing what the brain pre-dead spout as wisdom. Old battles refought by subservience to faulty memory is what got us into Iraq, only the latest conceit of wise ones who ache to impose their will on the world, deep inside understanding they are dying and will never accomplish what they set out to do years before. This accounts for the vainglorious repetition of past accomplishments, and worse, aggrieved insults, real or fanciful (again, failing memory mixes the two with truth abandoned). Fortunately most of the pre-dead don't have access to the levers of power and go to the grave without a blip, save grossing out grandkids with tales of doom and gloom. Still, if you put up with the grey-matter meltdown you might get your hands on the mattress savings -- and all the near dead stuff war booty for the endless trip upcoming, being certain their enemies will pursue for all eternity as they will the bastards that kept them from glorious immortal recognition. Eternally Young sez history sucks, history in the making moreso. Lose perspective or you're doomed to die before your time. Reason is death welcomed.
Re: cypherpunks discussions
hi,
Asking questions is part of learning. Unless one
learns how is he expected to participate and make once
in a while intelliget discussions?
Give noobs some space and time to learn and over time
they will contribute to the list.
I think when I was a kid, it took me quite a few
months to learn to walk. I beleive you also learned to
walk taking as much time as did. But nobody chopped
off my leg or your leg when we couldn't walk.
Sarath.
--- Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for you, I have dumped on you because most of
your posts to the list
look a lot like you are asking for help on a
homework problem or have
just semi-randomly pulled an example out of a crypto
or algebra book
and have decided to participate in the list by
asking if anyone knows
the answer to some puzzle.
hi,
Table shown is completed to define 'associative'
binary operation * on S={a,b,c,d}.
...
So can (a*d)*d=a*(d*d)=d considered as associative
over * for this case as per definition?
and
hi,
If we are to convert a k-bit integer n to a base b
number,it takes us O(log n) if the base b is a power
...
Is there an algorithm with time complexity O(log n)
which allows such conversion to base b ,when b is
not
a power of 2?
are just two of your more recent examples.
Now if you had told us you were implementing a
crypto system for use in
India (where I think you are from...), and had run
into a tough
problem, these might be interesting for people to
comment on.
A more fruitful sort of post might be for you to
But to post snippets of problems out of textbooks is
NOT participation
in the topics of the list. Think about it.
I wish you no ill-will, but you should find ways to
participate which
suggest you are actually reading what others are
saying and giving your
own views or responses to them.
__
Do you Yahoo!?
New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: cypherpunks discussions
I find it strange that some people here so often wants to intimidate those that dares to ask some questions. Eric put it very well in his post about dicksizewar. Very true indeed. I find it very *l*a*m*e* to all the time tell people to RTFM when something comes up that happened to be have been dealt with like five years ago.
Re: cypherpunks discussions
On Dec 8, 2003, at 11:13 PM, Sarad AV wrote: hi, Asking questions is part of learning. Unless one learns how is he expected to participate and make once in a while intelliget discussions? 1. You never contribute anything that indicates you have actually learned. 2. Your questions, such as the ones I gave as examples of your recent ones, are phrased as if they were lifted directly from algebra and number theory books. The conclusions are obvious. You are either a bot or a noob. Give noobs some space and time to learn and over time they will contribute to the list. Yep, a noob, whatever that is. Start contributing or leave. You've been posting textbook paragraphs and asking us to fill in the next line for way too many months. --Tim May
Re: cypherpunks discussions
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 07:22:19AM -0800, Eric Murray wrote: I'm getting tired of running the list. As it is now it doesn't provide much value and I could use my time for something else. Could someone please set up another node? I'll send you all my scripts etc. But I won't maintain it on a machine you provide, you'll have to do it. Maybe some of our list members from the government would like to step forward with some homeland security $$. :-) Eric hasn't formally abdicated, but let me remind everyone and the archives that there's an alternative node, [EMAIL PROTECTED], that runs in a substantially similar way to Eric's. It even uses some or most of the same scripts that Eric uses on lne.com. (The functionality that we're referring to here is that spam is mostly kept off list by only allowing posts from members of the list plus known anonymous remailers, known members of other nodes, etc. Posts that don't make it initially get forwarded by the node owners, and then posts from that user make it automatically from then on.) The ds.pro-ns.net node is hosted at the ISP that I own, so it doesn't suffer from any dialup connectivity issues. (I volunteered to take over for Eric in private email. He suggested that I remind everyone of the alternative, first.) -Bill
Re: cypherpunks discussions
hi, I just a pick a book and learn and if i am in doubt, ofcourse i do have a lot of stupid ones. but thats how i learn. I have friends who will help me with my queries. I prefer not getting flamed like every one else and that too in quick succesion :-). so my guess is that as far as newbies are concerned all the discussions are taken private. Moreover,there is no loss in interest in cryptography, we pursue it with our heart and soul. Sarath. At 03:26 PM 12/7/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: But even if crypto got trendy again, I just don't see the young students of today flocking to our particular mailing list. Too many other choices. Probably they'll read someone's daily blog A few observations. Nowadays, colleges offer courses in crypto. This was not the case when I started reading this list. And 'net social issues were not widely discussed; now there are many fora and public organizations that one can look at. Probably college courses on that, too. So *perhaps* neophytes interested in these things have many more places to learn. Just an optimistic possibility. I did much like your the nose rings of the followers comment though. __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: cypherpunks discussions
The web boards (forums) like phpNuke, et al, are not nearly as useful as listservs. The problem is that you have to go there. So, for instance, for the lists I admin, if someone puts out an announcement of an upcoming event, and people don't think to go look at the forum for awhile, they get the annoucement too late. Not a good thing. Another serious problem with them is that if you don't go there for awhile, the messages pile up, if it's a fairly active list, and become overwhelming. The tendency is then to just skip them. You also can't filter out the people you don't like -- a real drag. As for the lne.com blocks on spammers, that bit me too. When my dsl line ip changes, sometimes I can post to lne, sometimes I can't. So I just subscribe to lne to get the spam free postings, and then post to minder.net. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Re: cypherpunks discussions
At 07:22 AM 12/8/03 -0800, Eric Murray wrote: Other people have made the point that mailing lists are old tech and I agree. I don't like the new replacements (blogs, web boards) as much as lists, but perhaps that's because of what I used first. Its not just the First is the Only Way phenom. What's going on is that folks are online all the time now, so things interactive (web boards, IM) have become more popular than they could have been in the dial-up past. The big advantage of email, which was the original killer app, was store and forward. Ie, asych; offline. IM strikes me as perverse. If I wanted to be interrupted I'd answer my telephone. Email clients of olde allowed aliasing to lists, which predated (and motivated) mailing list exploders/auto-managers. They are still widely used for group-of-friends 'private' lists. Even my parents understand Bcc: nowadays. Yahoo boards have options to use email, and modern clients manage multiple email addresses. But for online folks a board is perhaps more convenient, since the board is accessable everywhere. For home/office/school mobility this is a feature, even if its regressing to the PC as dumb terminal mechanism. The advantage of eg Yahoo groups (and presumably blogs) is their moderation; the lack thereof enabled spammers to bulldoze the commons of usenet. Inevitable. Also the reason why lne.com is the best node. Kids these days don't know how to use shell shortcuts either. Not sure what you mean by that. Shortcut is a M$ term for lame-ass sym link. Remember, it takes 42 muscles to frown and only 4 to pull the trigger of a decent sniper rifle. Michael Hohensee
Re: cypherpunks discussions
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:21:21AM -0800, Sarad AV wrote: I prefer not getting flamed like every one else and that too in quick succesion :-). so my guess is that as far as newbies are concerned all the discussions are taken private. This is why the cpunks list has very little new subscribers... most newbies who post questions get flamed. Usually by Tim who sears them for not having read some post from 1992 or for bringing up a topic that was discussed in 1996. Perhaps if the archives were complete, well organized and easy to find it would be appropriate to politely tell newbies to read the FAQ. But they're not. It's also not a complete waste of time to discuss topics that have been discussed previously... some new information may come from the discussion. Someone who is not interested can just skip those posts. If the list is restricted to discusing topics that are only of interest to Tim (or any long-time member, Tim's not the only one) then only a few people will even be able to follow the discusssion, let alone participate. Tim, before you reply, I suggest that you look back through the last year or so's worth of your cpunks posts to see how many are the thoughtful incisive kind vs a barage of insults or complaints that the poster you are replying to is an idiot. A related problem is the tendency for a number of posters to turn every thread into an intellectual dicksizewar. It's gotten to the point where I don't post much, and I've been _working_ in security for the 8 years (and on Usenet, where the dicksizewar was invented, for 15). I can only imagine what it's like for new people. Only the most stubborn will stay. The list is selecting for obstinance. On a related note, I do see the addresses of people who unsubscribe, and they are often addresses that recently subscribed. Other people have made the point that mailing lists are old tech and I agree. I don't like the new replacements (blogs, web boards) as much as lists, but perhaps that's because of what I used first. Kids these days don't know how to use shell shortcuts either. BTW, there's about 415 list members. LNE doesn't censor, we do block networks that we've gotten spam from. Currently we block about 12,000 spams a week and receive another 1500 or so. We're still on dial-up (Verizon rural phone service sucks). Allowing those 12,000 spams through to process them would make our 43k line unuseable. Hence the blocking. I explained this to John in private email, and also explained how to get unblocked by following a link in the bounce message. He's refused to do this, prefering to claim that I'm censoring him. Whatever. The CIA agent reading over my shoulder says that John's way too paranoid. I realize that my spam solution is non-optimal but its the best I can come up with at the moment. I'm getting tired of running the list. As it is now it doesn't provide much value and I could use my time for something else. Could someone please set up another node? I'll send you all my scripts etc. But I won't maintain it on a machine you provide, you'll have to do it. Maybe some of our list members from the government would like to step forward with some homeland security $$. :-) Eric
Re: cypherpunks discussions
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 08:31:07AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: The advantage of eg Yahoo groups (and presumably blogs) is their moderation; the lack thereof enabled spammers to bulldoze the commons of usenet. Inevitable. I've been hearing about blog-spamming lately, and I've seen spammers attack web boards as well. Spammers are also using worms to get control of victim's machines and sending their spam from there. Kids these days don't know how to use shell shortcuts either. Not sure what you mean by that. Shortcut is a M$ term for lame-ass sym link. Sorry, I was in a hurry. History substition is what I meant... i.e. % ericm mkdir /home/cpun % ericm ^pun^punk % ericm cd !$ etc. or any of the hundreds of other history substitution commands. No one I work with knows any of them; they all either laboriously re-type or use the command-line editor even when it requires many more keystrokes. I try to restrain myself from barking out bang dollar! bang dollar dammit! but sometimes I can't help it. Eric
Re: cypherpunks discussions
hi, I just a pick a book and learn and if i am in doubt, ofcourse i do have a lot of stupid ones. but thats how i learn. I have friends who will help me with my queries. I prefer not getting flamed like every one else and that too in quick succesion :-). so my guess is that as far as newbies are concerned all the discussions are taken private. Moreover,there is no loss in interest in cryptography, we pursue it with our heart and soul. Sarath. At 03:26 PM 12/7/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: But even if crypto got trendy again, I just don't see the young students of today flocking to our particular mailing list. Too many other choices. Probably they'll read someone's daily blog A few observations. Nowadays, colleges offer courses in crypto. This was not the case when I started reading this list. And 'net social issues were not widely discussed; now there are many fora and public organizations that one can look at. Probably college courses on that, too. So *perhaps* neophytes interested in these things have many more places to learn. Just an optimistic possibility. I did much like your the nose rings of the followers comment though. __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: cypherpunks discussions
At 07:22 AM 12/8/03 -0800, Eric Murray wrote: Other people have made the point that mailing lists are old tech and I agree. I don't like the new replacements (blogs, web boards) as much as lists, but perhaps that's because of what I used first. Its not just the First is the Only Way phenom. What's going on is that folks are online all the time now, so things interactive (web boards, IM) have become more popular than they could have been in the dial-up past. The big advantage of email, which was the original killer app, was store and forward. Ie, asych; offline. IM strikes me as perverse. If I wanted to be interrupted I'd answer my telephone. Email clients of olde allowed aliasing to lists, which predated (and motivated) mailing list exploders/auto-managers. They are still widely used for group-of-friends 'private' lists. Even my parents understand Bcc: nowadays. Yahoo boards have options to use email, and modern clients manage multiple email addresses. But for online folks a board is perhaps more convenient, since the board is accessable everywhere. For home/office/school mobility this is a feature, even if its regressing to the PC as dumb terminal mechanism. The advantage of eg Yahoo groups (and presumably blogs) is their moderation; the lack thereof enabled spammers to bulldoze the commons of usenet. Inevitable. Also the reason why lne.com is the best node. Kids these days don't know how to use shell shortcuts either. Not sure what you mean by that. Shortcut is a M$ term for lame-ass sym link. Remember, it takes 42 muscles to frown and only 4 to pull the trigger of a decent sniper rifle. Michael Hohensee
Re: cypherpunks discussions
The web boards (forums) like phpNuke, et al, are not nearly as useful as listservs. The problem is that you have to go there. So, for instance, for the lists I admin, if someone puts out an announcement of an upcoming event, and people don't think to go look at the forum for awhile, they get the annoucement too late. Not a good thing. Another serious problem with them is that if you don't go there for awhile, the messages pile up, if it's a fairly active list, and become overwhelming. The tendency is then to just skip them. You also can't filter out the people you don't like -- a real drag. As for the lne.com blocks on spammers, that bit me too. When my dsl line ip changes, sometimes I can post to lne, sometimes I can't. So I just subscribe to lne to get the spam free postings, and then post to minder.net. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Re: cypherpunks discussions
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:21:21AM -0800, Sarad AV wrote: I prefer not getting flamed like every one else and that too in quick succesion :-). so my guess is that as far as newbies are concerned all the discussions are taken private. This is why the cpunks list has very little new subscribers... most newbies who post questions get flamed. Usually by Tim who sears them for not having read some post from 1992 or for bringing up a topic that was discussed in 1996. Perhaps if the archives were complete, well organized and easy to find it would be appropriate to politely tell newbies to read the FAQ. But they're not. It's also not a complete waste of time to discuss topics that have been discussed previously... some new information may come from the discussion. Someone who is not interested can just skip those posts. If the list is restricted to discusing topics that are only of interest to Tim (or any long-time member, Tim's not the only one) then only a few people will even be able to follow the discusssion, let alone participate. Tim, before you reply, I suggest that you look back through the last year or so's worth of your cpunks posts to see how many are the thoughtful incisive kind vs a barage of insults or complaints that the poster you are replying to is an idiot. A related problem is the tendency for a number of posters to turn every thread into an intellectual dicksizewar. It's gotten to the point where I don't post much, and I've been _working_ in security for the 8 years (and on Usenet, where the dicksizewar was invented, for 15). I can only imagine what it's like for new people. Only the most stubborn will stay. The list is selecting for obstinance. On a related note, I do see the addresses of people who unsubscribe, and they are often addresses that recently subscribed. Other people have made the point that mailing lists are old tech and I agree. I don't like the new replacements (blogs, web boards) as much as lists, but perhaps that's because of what I used first. Kids these days don't know how to use shell shortcuts either. BTW, there's about 415 list members. LNE doesn't censor, we do block networks that we've gotten spam from. Currently we block about 12,000 spams a week and receive another 1500 or so. We're still on dial-up (Verizon rural phone service sucks). Allowing those 12,000 spams through to process them would make our 43k line unuseable. Hence the blocking. I explained this to John in private email, and also explained how to get unblocked by following a link in the bounce message. He's refused to do this, prefering to claim that I'm censoring him. Whatever. The CIA agent reading over my shoulder says that John's way too paranoid. I realize that my spam solution is non-optimal but its the best I can come up with at the moment. I'm getting tired of running the list. As it is now it doesn't provide much value and I could use my time for something else. Could someone please set up another node? I'll send you all my scripts etc. But I won't maintain it on a machine you provide, you'll have to do it. Maybe some of our list members from the government would like to step forward with some homeland security $$. :-) Eric
Re: cypherpunks discussions
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 08:31:07AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: The advantage of eg Yahoo groups (and presumably blogs) is their moderation; the lack thereof enabled spammers to bulldoze the commons of usenet. Inevitable. I've been hearing about blog-spamming lately, and I've seen spammers attack web boards as well. Spammers are also using worms to get control of victim's machines and sending their spam from there. Kids these days don't know how to use shell shortcuts either. Not sure what you mean by that. Shortcut is a M$ term for lame-ass sym link. Sorry, I was in a hurry. History substition is what I meant... i.e. % ericm mkdir /home/cpun % ericm ^pun^punk % ericm cd !$ etc. or any of the hundreds of other history substitution commands. No one I work with knows any of them; they all either laboriously re-type or use the command-line editor even when it requires many more keystrokes. I try to restrain myself from barking out bang dollar! bang dollar dammit! but sometimes I can't help it. Eric
Re: cypherpunks discussions
On Dec 8, 2003, at 12:21 AM, Sarad AV wrote:
I have friends who will help me with my queries. I
prefer not getting flamed like every one else and that
too in quick succesion :-). so my guess is that as far
as newbies are concerned all the discussions are taken
private.
No, I think few topics on the Cypherpunks list are taken private.
I've had several people write to me in private, asking questions about
things that came up on the list. Sometimes I reply, but usually I urge
them to stop lurking and post on the list!
My reasons are two-fold: First, to get them to stop lurking and
participate. Second, to work up the energy to compose an essay (or
mini-essay, whatever), I need some motivation. I am not energetic about
writing a long response to some stranger who asks me a question in
private. If he posts publically, I may (or may not...) decide to use
his post as a jumping-off point for something that I think needs to be
said.
As for you, I have dumped on you because most of your posts to the list
look a lot like you are asking for help on a homework problem or have
just semi-randomly pulled an example out of a crypto or algebra book
and have decided to participate in the list by asking if anyone knows
the answer to some puzzle.
hi,
Table shown is completed to define 'associative'
binary operation * on S={a,b,c,d}.
..
So can (a*d)*d=a*(d*d)=d considered as associative
over * for this case as per definition?
and
hi,
If we are to convert a k-bit integer n to a base b
number,it takes us O(log n) if the base b is a power
..
Is there an algorithm with time complexity O(log n)
which allows such conversion to base b ,when b is not
a power of 2?
are just two of your more recent examples.
Now if you had told us you were implementing a crypto system for use in
India (where I think you are from...), and had run into a tough
problem, these might be interesting for people to comment on.
But they sure do look like homework problems.
A more fruitful sort of post might be for you to discuss the general
crypto situation in India, the telecom infrastructure, and Indian
government attitudes. Or, if these topics don't interest you, your
thoughts on implementing DC Nets, or using digital money, or whatever.
But to post snippets of problems out of textbooks is NOT participation
in the topics of the list. Think about it.
I wish you no ill-will, but you should find ways to participate which
suggest you are actually reading what others are saying and giving your
own views or responses to them.
--Tim May
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a
simple system that worked ...A complex system designed from scratch
never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to
start over, beginning with a working simple system. -- Grady Booch
