Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Eric Murray
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:42:56AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from
 lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. Tried

I'm experimenting with a new sendmail milter.
(the SMTP HELO arg needs to be reasonably valid in order to pass).
I've now set it to not reject mail to majordomo at
lne.com.  The blocklist thing is still
in effect, but if you're bounced by that
you get a URL in the bounce message
that you can use to get it fixed.

Eric



Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Harmon Seaver
   Yes, thanks a lot Eric, lne was a good job.



On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:08:30AM -0800, Eric Murray wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:42:56AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
 Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from
  lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. Tried
 
 I'm experimenting with a new sendmail milter.
 (the SMTP HELO arg needs to be reasonably valid in order to pass).
 I've now set it to not reject mail to majordomo at
 lne.com.  The blocklist thing is still
 in effect, but if you're bounced by that
 you get a URL in the bounce message
 that you can use to get it fixed.
 
 Eric

-- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com



Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:48:17AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
 
 On Dec 29, 2003, at 9:42 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
 
Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub 
 from
 lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. 
 Tried
 sending it thru a remailer but don't know if majordomo will go for 
 that.
 
 
 
 An unsubscribe command sent to the lne.com administrivia address was 
 rejected as spam?
 
 I find that hard to believe, as that is one of the normal commands, 
 ones which the lne regular message lists.
 
 Perhaps you tried to send an unsubscribe message to the actual lne.com 
 list site, rather than the administrivia address.
 
 
 Check which address you mailed to.
 

   No, it went to the correct address. I've set up and run majordomo lists, so
am fairly familiar with the procedure. The problem is that my email server sits
on an ameritech dsl line, and in the last year or so, a number of domains have
begun rejecting email from such. Some because it's a block of IPs used for home
dsl lines, some because someone on your network has been sending spam, etc. 
   IIRC, didn't you yourself have a problem awhile back mailing to lne.com? I
haven't been able to mail to it for a long time, but stayed subscribed because
of Eric's good filter, and just posted thru another node. 
With other domains, like new.rr.com that reject mail from my server, I just
map it to go thru the ameritech smtp server, which works but is annoying. At
this point there are eight domains I've had to do that with. Could have done it
with lne.com too, of course, but prefered to not have my posts to cpunks going
thru the ameritech server with it's (probably) attendent carnivore box. Maybe
that's irrelevant -- maybe they have it on the gateway routers instead. 




Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Thomas Shaddack

Another alternative could be a couple lines of PHP or perl, unsubscribing
via a web form.

On related note, what's a good node to migrate to?

PS: Thanks, Eric. It was a good node.



On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:

Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from
 lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. Tried
 sending it thru a remailer but don't know if majordomo will go for that.


  --
 Harmon Seaver
 CyberShamanix
 http://www.cybershamanix.com




Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Eric Murray
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 07:58:03PM +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
 Another alternative could be a couple lines of PHP or perl, unsubscribing
 via a web form.
 
 On related note, what's a good node to migrate to?

pro-ns.net is running a CDR similar to lne.

A number of other people have gotten my scripts but
I havent' seen any up and running yet.

 PS: Thanks, Eric. It was a good node.

Thanks.  


Eric



Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Tim May
On Dec 29, 2003, at 9:42 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote:

   Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub 
from
lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. 
Tried
sending it thru a remailer but don't know if majordomo will go for 
that.


An unsubscribe command sent to the lne.com administrivia address was 
rejected as spam?

I find that hard to believe, as that is one of the normal commands, 
ones which the lne regular message lists.

Perhaps you tried to send an unsubscribe message to the actual lne.com 
list site, rather than the administrivia address.

Check which address you mailed to.

--Tim May



Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Thomas Shaddack
 An unsubscribe command sent to the lne.com administrivia address was
 rejected as spam?

 I find that hard to believe, as that is one of the normal commands,
 ones which the lne regular message lists.

It's fairly possible the mail was rejected even before the SMTP
negotiation itself; it did little problems to me because of HELO string
not exactly matching the reverse DNS lookup on the IP.

The logs (or the bounce message) have the answer.



unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Harmon Seaver
   Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from
lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. Tried
sending it thru a remailer but don't know if majordomo will go for that. 


 -- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com



Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:48:17AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
 
 On Dec 29, 2003, at 9:42 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
 
Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub 
 from
 lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. 
 Tried
 sending it thru a remailer but don't know if majordomo will go for 
 that.
 
 
 
 An unsubscribe command sent to the lne.com administrivia address was 
 rejected as spam?
 
 I find that hard to believe, as that is one of the normal commands, 
 ones which the lne regular message lists.
 
 Perhaps you tried to send an unsubscribe message to the actual lne.com 
 list site, rather than the administrivia address.
 
 
 Check which address you mailed to.
 

   No, it went to the correct address. I've set up and run majordomo lists, so
am fairly familiar with the procedure. The problem is that my email server sits
on an ameritech dsl line, and in the last year or so, a number of domains have
begun rejecting email from such. Some because it's a block of IPs used for home
dsl lines, some because someone on your network has been sending spam, etc. 
   IIRC, didn't you yourself have a problem awhile back mailing to lne.com? I
haven't been able to mail to it for a long time, but stayed subscribed because
of Eric's good filter, and just posted thru another node. 
With other domains, like new.rr.com that reject mail from my server, I just
map it to go thru the ameritech smtp server, which works but is annoying. At
this point there are eight domains I've had to do that with. Could have done it
with lne.com too, of course, but prefered to not have my posts to cpunks going
thru the ameritech server with it's (probably) attendent carnivore box. Maybe
that's irrelevant -- maybe they have it on the gateway routers instead. 




Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Eric Murray
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:42:56AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from
 lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. Tried

I'm experimenting with a new sendmail milter.
(the SMTP HELO arg needs to be reasonably valid in order to pass).
I've now set it to not reject mail to majordomo at
lne.com.  The blocklist thing is still
in effect, but if you're bounced by that
you get a URL in the bounce message
that you can use to get it fixed.

Eric



Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Harmon Seaver
   Yes, thanks a lot Eric, lne was a good job.



On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:08:30AM -0800, Eric Murray wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:42:56AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
 Hmm, maybe Eric needs to undo his spam filter so people can unsub from
  lne.com. I just tried to, but it was rejected as undeliverable spam. Tried
 
 I'm experimenting with a new sendmail milter.
 (the SMTP HELO arg needs to be reasonably valid in order to pass).
 I've now set it to not reject mail to majordomo at
 lne.com.  The blocklist thing is still
 in effect, but if you're bounced by that
 you get a URL in the bounce message
 that you can use to get it fixed.
 
 Eric

-- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com



Re: unsub from lne

2003-12-29 Thread Eric Murray
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 07:58:03PM +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
 Another alternative could be a couple lines of PHP or perl, unsubscribing
 via a web form.
 
 On related note, what's a good node to migrate to?

pro-ns.net is running a CDR similar to lne.

A number of other people have gotten my scripts but
I havent' seen any up and running yet.

 PS: Thanks, Eric. It was a good node.

Thanks.  


Eric