Re: Spam blocklists?

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Fairbrother
Greg Broiles wrote: [...] Osirusoft seems to be a spam blocker, but blocking legitimate mail is going too far. I'd rather have the spam. And I object strongly to third (or fourth) parties deciding what to do with my mail. It's the recipient, or someone acting on their behalf, who's

Re: Spam blocklists?

2002-08-14 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 14 Aug 2002 at 4:36, Peter Fairbrother wrote: For instance, limiting the number of recipients of an email (the cryptogeek system I'm working on [m-o-o-t] just allows one), or limiting the number of emails one IP can send per day (adjusted for number of users). There was an EU

Overcoming the potential downside of TCPA

2002-08-14 Thread Joseph Ashwood
Lately on both of these lists there has been quite some discussion about TCPA and Palladium, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the anonymous. :) However there is something that is very much worth noting, at least about TCPA. There is nothing stopping a virtualized version being created. There is

Re: Spam blocklists?

2002-08-14 Thread Marcel Popescu
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Solution is obvious and has been known for a long time Integrate payment with email. If anyone not on your approved list wants to send you mail, they have to pay you x, where x is a trivial sum, say a cent or two. Spammers wind up sending huge

Re: Spam blocklists?

2002-08-14 Thread Sunder
None of those things work. Most spammers don't give a shit if you don't receive email. I can attest to this by the slew of spam going to hostmaster, webmaster, and the like on many networks. What they're really selling is ten million addresses and spam software. Even if 9 million of those are

Re: Overcoming the potential downside of TCPA

2002-08-14 Thread Carl Ellison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 10:58 PM 8/13/2002 -0700, Joseph Ashwood wrote: Lately on both of these lists there has been quite some discussion about TCPA and Palladium, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the anonymous. :) However there is something that is very much worth

MS on Palladium, DRM and copy-protection (via job ad)

2002-08-14 Thread Adam Back
It seems from this article that perhaps MS already had worked out how to do copy protection with Palladium, or at least thinks it possible contrary to what was said at USENIX security: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26651.html [Palladium related job advert...] Our technology allows

RE: Polio, DES Crack, and Proofs of Concept

2002-08-14 Thread Trei, Peter
Khoder bin Hakkin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: In the most recent _Science_ some biologists gripe that the scientists who synthesized infectious poliovirus from its description were not doing anything novel, just a prank. Any biologist would have known that, since you could concatenate

Re: Overcoming the potential downside of TCPA

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Laurie
Joseph Ashwood wrote: Lately on both of these lists there has been quite some discussion about TCPA and Palladium, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the anonymous. :) However there is something that is very much worth noting, at least about TCPA. There is nothing stopping a virtualized

TCPA/Palladium user interst vs third party interest (Re: responding to claims about TCPA)

2002-08-14 Thread Adam Back
The remote attesation is the feature which is in the interests of third parties. I think if this feature were removed the worst of the issues the complaints are around would go away because the remaining features would be under the control of the user, and there would be no way for third parties

Re: TCPA/Palladium user interst vs third party interest (Re: responding to claims about TCPA)

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Laurie
Adam Back wrote: The remote attesation is the feature which is in the interests of third parties. I think if this feature were removed the worst of the issues the complaints are around would go away because the remaining features would be under the control of the user, and there would be