Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-15 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:14:18AM -0800, Tim May wrote: You really need to get up to speed on this issue if you think either the nations of Europe or Canada are more tolerant of crypto than the U.S. is. The archives have much material, findable with Google in most cases. Tim is right.

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-15 Thread Steve Schear
Correction From my review Great cinema, poor history, of the movie Glory: If not for the foolish chivalry of Confederate President Jefferson Davis, in not following up their rout of the Union Army at the war's first big battle of Bull Run (called First Manassas in The South) just outside

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-15 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Anonymous wrote: Spot on. But what, if anything, do you think can be done to reverse this slide to Red White and Blue Stalinism with good PR? I trust you are not one of those who will prattle something like exercise your right to vote, or write your

Re: [IP] Dan Gillmor: Accessing a whole new world via multimedia phones (fwd)

2002-12-15 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Steve Furlong wrote: The point was, the content providers aren't providing the entertainment. The daughters are talking (and talking!) to their friends with no help from the big companies other than providing the connectivity. I believe that was Olyzko's point in the

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S HotelQ

2002-12-15 Thread Vayu Anonymous Remailer
Is the cypherpunks movement truly so radicalized that it is not willing to count even EPIC among its friends? The Cypherpunks Movement never was and presently is not aligned with, and does not endorse any organization or individuals that cooperate with the current power structure, either

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-15 Thread Steve Schear
At 07:45 PM 12/14/2002 -0500, Steve Furlong wrote: On Saturday 14 December 2002 18:18, Mike Rosing wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: Lincoln's notion that the Constitution is suspendable during a war, or other emergency conditions, was disgraceful. Nothing in the Constitution says

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-15 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 05:10:23PM +0100, Anonymous wrote: Vote? Are you kidding? OK, here is your task. Since all but one member of congress voted FOR the USA PATRIOT ACT, exactly what All but one member of the Senate. House was a bit better, though still extremely pathetic, and the

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-15 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:09 PM 12/14/2002 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 10:47:25AM -0800, Tim May wrote: Secret trials are on the rise. Inasmuch as the U.S. is now throwing its full weight behind secret evidence, secret prosecutions, secret trials, secret appeals courts, suspension of habeas corpus,

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'SHotel

2002-12-15 Thread Jim Choate
On 15 Dec 2002, David Wagner wrote: Declan McCullagh wrote: Also epic.org (not a cypherpunk-friendly organization, but it does try to limit law enforcement surveillance) [...] Is the cypherpunks movement truly so radicalized that it is not willing to count even EPIC among its friends?

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-15 Thread David Wagner
Declan McCullagh wrote: Also epic.org (not a cypherpunk-friendly organization, but it does try to limit law enforcement surveillance) [...] Is the cypherpunks movement truly so radicalized that it is not willing to count even EPIC among its friends?

Re: Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-15 Thread Adam Shostack
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 12:22:30PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: | EPIC is in favor of using technologies to limit the information that | people disclose. It is in favor of limiting law enforcement [...] | But EPIC sharply diverges with some cypherpunks over the question of | what regulations

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-15 Thread Anonymous
On 15 Dec 2002, David Wagner wrote: Declan McCullagh wrote: Also epic.org (not a cypherpunk-friendly organization, but it does try to limit law enforcement surveillance) [...] Is the cypherpunks movement truly so radicalized that it is not willing to count even EPIC among its friends?

Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-15 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 12:18:52AM +, David Wagner wrote: Declan McCullagh wrote: Also epic.org (not a cypherpunk-friendly organization, but it does try to limit law enforcement surveillance) [...] Is the cypherpunks movement truly so radicalized that it is not willing to count even

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-15 Thread Sarad AV
hi, --- Mike Rosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And who supports whom to prevent extermination. Firstly,they cannot be exterminated.There is no proof of identity as we may have in our countries and no body will ask for it either,since most don't have one. The Taliban would have cut their beard and