Re: cloning as heresy (Re: Fresh Hell)

2003-01-18 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 09:36:30PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: He's talking about parthogenesis. There must be several passages which could be interpreted that way. God put Adam into a deep sleep, and fashoned Eve from his rib. Doable, if you

Re: Fresh Hell

2003-01-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Morlock Elloi wrote: Funny, but I can't seem to find the passage in the Bible where it talks about cloning. In fact, I can't find any passage that even remotely impinges on the subject [...] wasn't there something about exclusivity of conceiving without fucking ? As a former believer and

Re: Petro's catch-22 incorrect (Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants)

2003-01-18 Thread Tyler Durden
John Keley wrote... There are terrorists who'd want to do nasty things to us for simply allowing global trade, or for allowing trade with repressive regimes like Saudi Arabia or Nigeria, or for selling weapons to countries with bad human rights records. Hummm...kind of an odd argument, don't

Re: cloning as heresy (Re: Fresh Hell)

2003-01-18 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: He's talking about parthogenesis. There must be several passages which could be interpreted that way. God put Adam into a deep sleep, and fashoned Eve from his rib. Doable, if you knock out one Y chromosome and inject another X from another

Re: Petro's catch-22 incorrect (Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants)

2003-01-18 Thread W H Robinson
Tyler Durden wrote: John Keley wrote... Osama Bin Laden might not hate us, but *someone* would. Well, perhaps we fucked with the wrong guy. Fucked with. Trained up and fucked over. Whatever. BTW...a Muslim co-worker sardonically stated recently that our new war with Iraq is just a way

cloning as heresy (Re: Fresh Hell)

2003-01-18 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:44 PM 1/17/03 -0800, Morlock Elloi wrote: 1) Fucks up the prevailing religion doctrine. Funny, but I can't seem to find the passage in the Bible where it talks about cloning. In fact, I can't find any passage that even remotely impinges on the subject. Provided that I had the christian

Re: Desert Spam(The war)

2003-01-18 Thread Sarad AV
hi, Does n't that also mean that the US will have to time well the ending of the war or the fall of iraq(If iraq is to fall-that we will have to wait and see). Usually we have oil reserves which can last three months from the start of the war.How ever then the US will not be able to sell

Re: Fresh Hell

2003-01-18 Thread Morlock Elloi
1) Fucks up the prevailing religion doctrine. Funny, but I can't seem to find the passage in the Bible where it talks about cloning. In fact, I can't find any passage that even remotely impinges on the subject. Provided that I had the christian cult in mind (where I am not an connoisseur),

Re: The Plague

2003-01-18 Thread Neil Johnson
Don't forget that at that time sanitation practices in cities really sucked. You threw your full chamber pot and garbage out the window and on to the street. Everybody drank from a common well. Nobody knew about how diseases spread (It was black magic or the wrath of God for your sins). Few

Re: Fresh Hell

2003-01-18 Thread Paul H. Merrill
Foolish Person. Thinking that the prevailing religious doctrine has anything to do with the Bible. PHM Paul H Merrill, MCSE, CISSP [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kevin S. Van Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 19:23

Re: The Plague

2003-01-18 Thread Bill Frantz
At 8:35 PM -0800 1/17/03, Neil Johnson wrote: Few people realize that one of the reasons we live so long today is because of the lowly toliet. This is the source of the observation, Governments are like toilets. They're necessary for public health, but you shouldn't worship them. YMMV - Bill

Re: Fresh Hell

2003-01-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Morlock Elloi wrote: What would be the valid reason for the government to claim power to regulate her egg, her skin DNA, and her uterus? 1) Fucks up the prevailing religion doctrine. Funny, but I can't seem to find the passage in the Bible where it talks about cloning. In fact, I can't

Re: Desert Spam

2003-01-18 Thread John Kelsey
At 06:56 AM 1/16/03 -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: Does anyone know a source for a spam list for US military? It would be great to start spamming them with messages about how much they are hated by the entire world, how little real support they have at home

Re: Petro's catch-22 incorrect (Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants)

2003-01-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
John Kelsey wrote: No policy toward anyone isn't possible once there's any kind of contact. There are terrorists who'd want to do nasty things to us for simply allowing global trade, or for allowing trade with repressive regimes like Saudi Arabia or Nigeria, or for selling weapons to

Re: Petro's catch-22 incorrect (Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants)

2003-01-18 Thread John Kelsey
At 09:38 AM 1/16/03 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 03:20 PM 1/15/03 -0800, Petro wrote: ... [Question of whether we could have avoided 9/11 and such things by not having an activist foreign policy] Secondly, other groups would have been just as pissed off at us for *not* helping