Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://pixla.px.cz/pentagon.swf
Perhaps some of those arguments can be put to bed:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2004/110804factsstraight.htm
..not that I find either one completely convincing...
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Riad S. Wahby
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Eugen Leitl wrote:
http://www.muenster.org/uiw/fach/chemie/material/gif/oppau.jpg
Wow! I had no idea ammonium nitrate (ANFO for all intents and purposes,
yes?) could produce that kind of result! How much was there?
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At 12:01 AM 9/12/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
No big deal? Who are they kidding?
JAT, any large explosion will create a mushroom cloud. Its the
blast wave reflecting off the ground that lifts the thing, plus the
buoyancy of the hot gasses.
If it *were* a nuke, it would be easy to detect
No big deal? Who are they kidding?
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J.A. Terranson
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...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do
not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out
about them. Osama Bin Laden
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On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 05:07:55PM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Eugen Leitl wrote:
http://www.muenster.org/uiw/fach/chemie/material/gif/oppau.jpg
Wow! I had no idea ammonium nitrate (ANFO for all intents and purposes,
yes?) could produce that kind of result! How
That of course brings us full circle: how many fuels can produce a blast
which results in a 2+ mile mushroom? That's a *lot* of explosive force.
Blast sets off the forest fire, fire makes the smoke. Not a problem.
Go visit Northern California in late summer firestorm season
(though we don't
Variola wrote...
If it *were* a nuke, it would be easy to detect --from Vera
gamma-ray satellites staring at the earth to optical sensors
(there's a characteristic nonlinear time-course of optical emissions)
to fallout monitors, ground and plane based.
--and an underground test
that vents to the
Google has an austere black on white billboard ad which simply reads.
www.{first 10-digit prime found in the consecutive digits of e}.com
People arriving solve another puzzle, and then can use the answer as a
password for a website that greets them with the message...
One thing we
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote:
No big deal? Who are they kidding?
A 2-mile wide cloud is WAY too big to be caused by a single explosion,
unless REALLY big.
Exactly. And there aren't many things *that* big.
The forest fire claim
At 11:45 AM 9/12/2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Time will tell, and it certainly could have been a nuke (they have
the SNMs), but if you do it, you talk about it, much like
the Indi/Pakis did. And you can't hide a surface burst, or
even a large belowground test --and an underground test
that
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So, since this is titled BrinCity, it surely means that the image
streams will be available from a web site and that we the people get
cameras in the emergency response center and the mayor's office?
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No, this is
Yo RAH... I don't see a big problem here. Derrida seems right on the money
for the most part. Even this Tribunal has some Cypherpunk-friendly ideas
behind it: namely, it's not particularly state-oriented and its
reputation-based. Sure, he may be a little soft on a bunch of stuff, but
he's
For your Sunday morning's entertainment, boys and girls, I present the
latest post-modernist circle-jerk. Put down your coffee, or you'll mess up
your keyboard.
Cheers,
RAH
Who remembers the citizen's courts that Mr. Bell was so fond of...
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote:
No big deal? Who are they kidding?
A 2-mile wide cloud is WAY too big to be caused by a single explosion,
unless REALLY big. The forest fire claim sounds more plausible in this
regard. An existing cloud could be used for masking, though.
But a
J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
The forest fire claim sounds more plausible in this
regard. An existing cloud could be used for masking, though.
Wait a minute: since when does a forest fire create explosions? Or have
enough ground force to push up a mushroom
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
At 12:01 AM 9/12/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
No big deal? Who are they kidding?
JAT, any large explosion will create a mushroom cloud. Its the
blast wave reflecting off the ground that lifts the thing, plus the
buoyancy of the hot
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
From: Adam Back [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: anonymous IP terminology (Re: [anonsec] Re: potential new IETF
At ZKS we had software to remail
MIME mail to provide a pseudonymous email. But one gotcha is that
mail clients include MIME boundary
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 12:01:29AM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
No big deal? Who are they kidding?
Has it occured to anyone this might be a covert US (or Chinese
or ) operation to destroy the PRK nuke test setup, say with cruise
missiles, stealth B2 bombers, or a infiltrated
Ken Brown wrote...
And if there was such a test, how long before China stomped all over them.
Last thing they want is a looney dictator with nukes on their borders (If
only to pre-empt Russia, US, or Japan intervening). Even if both the
Chinese state capitalists and the North Korean absolute
I wonder if they include Shinomura boffing Gilmore's girlfriend in the Toad
Hall hot tub?
Got Skills indeed...
Cheers,
RAH
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 05:41:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: InfoSec News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ISN] Mitnick movie comes to the
Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
About 4.5 kT of 50:50 ammonium nitrate/ammonium sulfate mix. One of the
largest, if not *the* largest nonnuclear explosions ever.
The largest man-made explosion is usually claimed to be Halifax (about 3000
tons of assorted HE's), but there are a pile of
At 1:33 PM +0100 9/13/04, Ben Laurie wrote:
Surely you should check that:
a) The signature works
b) Is someone in your list of good keys
before whitelisting?
Amen.
A (cryptographic) whitelist for my friends, all others pay cash. :-)
Cheers,
RAH
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J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wow! I had no idea ammonium nitrate (ANFO for all intents and purposes,
yes?) could produce that kind of result! How much was there?
4,500 tons, of which only 10% detonated.
(The nitrate was desensitised with ammonium sulfate and stored outside,
Currently BGP is secured by
1. accepting BGP info only from known router IPs
2. ISPs not propogating BGP from the edge inwards
Its a serious vulnerability (as in, take down the net),
equivalent to the ability to confuse the post office
machinery that sorts postcards. All you need to
do is
At 06:23 PM 9/12/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
I had thought that one of the main tests was seismic...from what I
understood, Seismic monitors in the US can detect nu-cu-lar tests
(above or
below ground) and even guess where and the size of the blast.
Yes. Seismic sensors see some foreshock
At 06:59 AM 9/14/04 +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote:
(The nitrate was desensitised with ammonium sulfate and stored outside,
whenever anyone needed any they'd drill holes and blast off chunks with
dynamite.
AN is extremely deliquescent; perhaps the sulphate was for that?
Removing chunks with
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
Damn right. 'Conservative' means agreeing with the most vocal proponents
of the current right wing apparatchiks. It seems to have little or no
relationship to fiscally conservative ideas. Left wing now refers to
anyone who disagrees with the
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