Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Dave Howe
J.A. Terranson wrote: Which of course neatly sidesteps the issue that a DRIVERS LICENSE is not identification, it is proof you have some minimum competency to operate a motor vehicle... IIRC, several states have taken to issuing a no compentency driving licence (ie, the area that says what that

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Few liquor stores (for example) accept anything else. ..except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by liquor stores AFAICT. Imagine that. An _actual_ document of identification being used for approximately the correct purpose. -- Riad S.

Re: Implant replaces ID cards for access to restricted areas.

2004-10-12 Thread John Kelsey
From: Steve Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 9, 2004 7:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Implant replaces ID cards for access to restricted areas. On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 02:20, Nomen Nescio wrote: Mexican Attorney General, Staff Get Chip Implants Implant replaces ID cards for access

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Dave Howe
Riad S. Wahby wrote: ...except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by liquor stores AFAICT. And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes?

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes? Probably not all that many. Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor stores, even an _expired_ passport was useful identification. Can anyone

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Sunder
Right, just because your Passport or driver's license expired, doesn't mean that you got any younger and therefore shouldn't drink. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Tyler Durden
Can't specifically confirm that, but this last summer I traveled to several countries (and back into the US) using an expired passport as ID (and no, they didn't just forget to read the date, the expired passport was officially acceptable). -TD From: Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

cryptome.org down?

2004-10-12 Thread Sunder
DNS seems to resolve, but never get to the web server. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\ --*--:and our people,

Re: cryptome.org down?

2004-10-12 Thread John Young
The site has been overloaded for a couple of days due to heavy hits on files on the Indymedia UK takedown and the Bush bulge. A Slashdot attack added to that yesterday but has gone away. Today The Reg cited the Bush bulge file and the overload restarted. It'll pass shortly, maybe.

Re: Cash, Credit -- or Prints?

2004-10-12 Thread John Kelsey
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 12, 2004 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cash, Credit -- or Prints? .. Very interesting question. I'd bet almost any amount of money that it's fairly trivial to simply alligator-clip-out the fingerprint's file from

Re: Cash, Credit -- or Prints?

2004-10-12 Thread Frank Siebenlist
Can anyone explain how sophisticated those fingerprint readers are? Are there readers out there that by themselves are secure devices and essentially are able to talk with their servers thru the PCs/workstations over a protocol such that any man-in-the-middle, like a driver, can not learn

Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://nytimes.com/2004/10/11/politics/11identity.html?pagewanted=printposition= The New York Times October 11, 2004 Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses By MATTHEW L. WALD ASHINGTON, Oct. 10 - Following a recommendation of the Sept. 11 commission, the House and Senate

Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses

2004-10-12 Thread J.A. Terranson
In both houses, the legislation is geared to respond to numerous recommendations made by the Sept. 11 commission. For years before the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement officials, especially those concerned with identity theft, argued that the states should have more

Re: Financial identity is *dangerous*? (was re: Fake companies, real money)

2004-10-12 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 9:49 AM -0400 10/12/04, John Kelsey wrote: Hmmm. I guess I don't see why this story supports that argument all that well. More like the straw that broke the camel's back, admittedly. A long time ago I came to the conclusion that the closer we

Airline ID requirement faces legal challenge

2004-10-12 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/surveillance/2004-10-10-privacy_x.htm USA Today Airline ID requirement faces legal challenge By Richard Willing, USA TODAY At a time when Americans have come to expect tight security for air travel, it might seem to be an odd question: Does requiring airline

RE: Airline ID requirement faces legal challenge

2004-10-12 Thread Tyler Durden
Actually, this story is quite the media bellweather. This one treats the case purely as Gilmore wants to fly anonymously, while even some other mainline media are reporting it as, Gilmore is questioning the legality of hidden laws. I guess USA Today still feels it has an audience worth