Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)

2004-10-25 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: James A. Donald: McViegh did not target innocents. Bin Laden did target innocents. Roy M. Silvernail I'm confused. Is Mr. Donald saying McVeigh did not surveil his target sufficiently to know that there was a day care center in the

Re: Give peace a chance? NAH...

2004-10-25 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: The ICC and the world court have a track record that resembles the lowest common demoninator of the governments that sponsor it - They support tyrrany, terror, and slavery, and shattering confiscation of property. Agreed. For all that is wrong

In matters economic, it is and will continue to be conservative. On issues of civil rights and individual liberties, it is consistently liberal. (fwd)

2004-10-25 Thread J.A. Terranson
Hey! James! Are you LISTENING? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF An ill wind is stalking while evil stars whir and all the gold apples go bad to the core S. Plath, Temper of Time Latest Editorials Previous Story Next

Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)

2004-10-25 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: James A. Donald: Bin Laden's intent was to make anyone in America afraid - thus the use of airliners, rather than truck bombs. McViegh's intent was to make BATF afraid. J.A. Terranson: This is idiotic. You're claiming that the definition

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 23 Oct 2004 at 23:37, Adam wrote: You know, the more I read posts by Mr. Donald, the more I believe that he is quite possibly the most apt troll I have ever encountered. Why don't you pick one particular factual claim, for example that Bin Laden was a CIA agent, and defend it,

Re: Give peace a chance? NAH...

2004-10-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald For all that is wrong with the US government, remember the condition of people under the great majority of the world's governments: poverty and fear, where the political privilege of a few shatters the economy and forces the vast majority into poverty, for

Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)

2004-10-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: Bin Laden's intent was to make anyone in America afraid - thus the use of airliners, rather than truck bombs. McViegh's intent was to make BATF afraid. J.A. Terranson: This is idiotic. You're claiming that the definition of terrorist is dependent not on the

Re: Give peace a chance? NAH...

2004-10-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- Adam: This brings up thoughts of prior debates on whether or not US citizens are subject to the International Court. We (the US) are making a habit of forcing our laws on other countries, but yet we are not subject to the laws of an established INTERNATIONAL court; one who's laws

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread Pete Capelli
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:16:22 -0500 (CDT), J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: I've just never encountered anyone who had NO doubt about anything the current regime is doing. Really? I have - every single person voting for Shrub seems to

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald wrote: You guys just keep making up facts. There were no branches of the armed services in the towers. You are just spouting bullshit, like the story that Osama Bin Laden was trained by the CIA, that Saddam was installed in a CIA coup, and all those similar

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
Can you guys please take it outside? The majority of us just isn't interested. On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:49:52PM -0700, James A. Donald wrote: Nail your colors to the mast. Pick one of the above and defend it. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, the Bush supporters I've met aren't normally so sure. They'll kind of hem and haw, or saw Well, he's got advisors..., or Well, Kerry ain't any better. Once in a while they'll point to Buh's believability or decisiveness, but I've never seen anyone (besides Mr Donald) attempt the role of

Doubt

2004-10-25 Thread Tyler Durden
Peter Capelli wrote... Yet what of your blindness, which doubts *everything* the current administration does? 1. Abu Ghraib 2. WMD in Iraq 3. Patriot Act 4. Countless ties between this administration and the major contract winners in Iraq Hum. Seems a decent amount of doubt is called for. -TD

Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)

2004-10-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: McViegh did not target innocents. Bin Laden did target innocents. Roy M. Silvernail I'm confused. Is Mr. Donald saying McVeigh did not surveil his target sufficiently to know that there was a day care center in the damage pattern? Bin Laden's intent was to

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-25 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 9:56 PM +0200 10/24/04, Eugen Leitl wrote: Can you guys please take it outside? The majority of us just isn't interested. Oh, please. TantoWho's this us, white man?/Tanto Personally, I'm having a lot of fun watching this. What amazes me the most

Re: Doubt

2004-10-25 Thread Pete Capelli
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:00:46 -0400, Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Capelli wrote... Yet what of your blindness, which doubts *everything* the current administration does? 1. Abu Ghraib 2. WMD in Iraq 3. Patriot Act 4. Countless ties between this administration and the

How Empires Really End

2004-10-25 Thread R.A. Hettinga
One of the reasons I habitually use the Gibon quote in my .sig. Cheers, RAH --- --- begin forwarded text Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mises Daily Article [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mises Daily Article [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How Empires Really End Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:45:20 -0400

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread Pete Capelli
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:40:12 -0400, Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the Bush supporters I've met aren't normally so sure. They'll kind of hem and haw, or saw Well, he's got advisors..., or Well, Kerry ain't any better. Once in a while they'll point to Buh's believability or

[FoRK] Your papers, citizen (fwd from deafbox@hotmail.com)

2004-10-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Russell Turpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Russell Turpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:31:39 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FoRK] Your papers, citizen This was on Slashdot's political feed. Here's the jaw-dropper: McCain envisions erecting

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: You MUST be new here, Pete ole boy... Do you really think Kerry wouldnt have signed the Patriot Act if he was president? Federalized the drivers license requirements? Pushed for socialized medicine with central controls? Kerry or Bush, Kang or

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread Tyler Durden
You MUST be new here, Pete ole boy... Do you really think Kerry wouldnt have signed the Patriot Act if he was president? Federalized the drivers license requirements? Pushed for socialized medicine with central controls? Kerry or Bush, Kang or Kodos, in the end it means the same thing. I'm sure

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 1:57 PM -0500 10/25/04, J.A. Terranson wrote: Here: Allow me to be the very first - Kerry Very Definitely NEEDS KILLING. But not until Georgie has had *his* turn. Exactly the point I was making before. Binary politics are a bitch, boys and girls. viz, I'm as cryptoanarchist as the next guy,

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread Pete Capelli
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:10:14 -0400, Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You MUST be new here, Pete ole boy... Not exactly ... I'm sure there are several Cypherpunks who would be very quick to describe Kerry as needs killing. I'm not advocating Tim May style actions, although I do miss

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 2:33 PM -0400 10/25/04, Pete Capelli wrote: He did keep things active, and was an excellent counterbalance to RAH. *Nobody* was a counterbalance to Tim, me or anyone else. Simple fact, no matter how much he pissed on my shoes, or anyone else's. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A.

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread John Kelsey
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 25, 2004 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Donald's Job Description Well, the Bush supporters I've met aren't normally so sure. They'll kind of hem and haw, or saw Well, he's got advisors..., or

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 10:32 PM +0200 10/25/04, Eugen Leitl wrote: What's he up to these days? It seems he got tired of of USENET, too http://groups.google.com/groups?q=tcmay%40got.nethl=enlr=c2coff=1safe=offsa=Gscoring=d Too bad. Here we go...

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 10:32 PM +0200 10/25/04, Eugen Leitl wrote: What's he up to these days? Probably in jail. :-). I told him not to throw rocks at cop-cars... Cheers, RAH Okay, so he's probably not in *jail*... -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 03:20:28PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: *Nobody* was a counterbalance to Tim, me or anyone else. Simple fact, no matter how much he pissed on my shoes, or anyone else's. What's he up to these days? It seems he got tired of of USENET, too

Re: Donald's Job Description

2004-10-25 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote: Here we go... http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100hl=enlr=safe=offc2coff=1scoring=dq=%22Tim+May%22btnG=Search Wow! He's gotten even worse! US Code 10 does not enslave me to some militia that holds views generally counter to my

Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)

2004-10-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- J.A. Terranson: So if I was to go out tomorrow and spread 2000 curies of Ci into the local subway system As payback for Ruby Ridge, this would not be an act of terrorism? James A. Donald: That would be terrorism, because regardless of what you *said* your intent was, you would