Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-04 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs Isn't it possible to emulate the TCPA chip in software, using one's own RSA key, and thus signing whatever you damn well please with it instead of whatever the chip wants to sign?

Using TCPA

2005-02-04 Thread Eric Murray
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 11:51:57AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: It could easily be leveraged to make motherboards which will only run 'authorized' OSs, and OSs which will run only 'authorized' software. [..] If you 'take ownership' as you put it, the internal keys and certs change, and all

Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-04 Thread Ian G
Ed Reed wrote: I'm just curious on this point. I haven't seen much to indicate that Microsoft and others are ready for a nymous, tradeable software assets world. No, and neither are corporate customers, to a large extent. Right, so my point (I think) was that without some indication that

Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-04 Thread Justin
On 2005-02-04T14:30:48-0500, Mark Allen Earnest wrote: The government was not able to get the Clipper chip passed and that was backed with the horror stories of rampant pedophilia, terrorism, and organized crime. Do you honestly believe they will be able to destroy open source, linux,

Re: [s-t] bright lights, big computers digest #1

2005-02-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
[from somelist] Subject: Re: [s-t] The return of Das Blinkenlight Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:00:49 -0500 In the early 90's I was a product manager for a (now-defunct) company that made LAN hubs-- this was when a 10Base-T port would cost you a couple This reminded me of a story from a

Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Peter Gutmann wrote: Neither. Currently they've typically been smart-card cores glued to the MB and accessed via I2C/SMB. and chips that typically have had eal4+ or eal5+ evaluations. hot topic in 2000, 2001 ... at the intel developer's forums and rsa conferences

Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Erwann ABALEA wrote: I've read your objections. Maybe I wasn't clear. What's wrong in installing a cryptographic device by default on PC motherboards? I work for a PKI 'vendor', and for me, software private keys is a nonsense. How will you convice Mr Smith (or Mme Michu) to buy an expensive CC

Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-04 Thread Dan Kaminsky
The best that can happen with TCPA is pretty good - it could stop a lot of viruses and malware, for one thing. No, it can't. That's the point; it's not like the code running inside the sandbox becomes magically exploitproof...it just becomes totally opaque to any external auditor. A black

Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-04 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Kaminsky writes: Uh, you *really* have no idea how much the black hat community is looking forward to TCPA. For example, Office is going to have core components running inside a protected environment totally immune to antivirus. How? TCPA is only a

mmm, petits filous (was Re: NTK now, 2005-02-04)

2005-02-04 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 5:45 PM + 2/4/05, Dave Green wrote: mmm, petits filous Everyone else likes to worry about Google's gathering conflict of interests, but Verisign's S.P.E.C.T.R.E.-level skills still take some beating. This week, orbiting crypto