Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-11-01 Thread ken
Bill Stewart wrote: On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: This presupposes the US intends to rule Afghanistan and Iraq, which is manifestly false. Since this chain started by ragging on RAH about it being a _geodesic_ neo-{Khan, con-men} empire, you're both correct - there isn't a

Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-11-01 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 8:29 PM + 11/1/04, ken wrote: Read up on Lord Lugard. Oh. I get it. September came two months later this year across the pond... Cheers, RAH Foghorn-LeghornNow, *that*, I say, *that*, son, is an ad hominem.../F-L -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet

RE: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-10-30 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 29 Oct 2004 at 10:20, Tyler Durden wrote: We're not reducing the quantity of government, just consolidating under a single growing Borg-like government, namely the US. This presupposes the US intends to rule Afghanistan and Iraq, which is manifestly false. --digsig

RE: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-10-30 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: On 29 Oct 2004 at 10:20, Tyler Durden wrote: We're not reducing the quantity of government, just consolidating under a single growing Borg-like government, namely the US. This presupposes the US intends to rule Afghanistan and Iraq, which is

Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-10-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 09:24:20PM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: Agreed. Our interest in not in Afghanistan/Iraq per se. Our interest is in ruling the *planet*, rather than any individual pissant player. Empires never last, and if there's going to be a new one, it's going to be Chinese. (Of

RE: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-10-30 Thread Bill Stewart
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote: This presupposes the US intends to rule Afghanistan and Iraq, which is manifestly false. Since this chain started by ragging on RAH about it being a _geodesic_ neo-{Khan, con-men} empire, you're both correct - there isn't a conflict between ruling

Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-10-29 Thread R.A. Hettinga
For the most part, I'm going to answer this (mostly) seriously, though I expect it wasn't asked in the same fashion. At 9:17 PM -0700 10/28/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Is this geodesic neo-conservativism? Where can I start bearer-document goose-stepping? Impedance mismatch. You're using a

Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-10-29 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:07 PM 10/24/04 -0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote: If the only way to kill barbarians is to kill barbarians in their bed before they kill you in yours, to pave over nation-states that support them, starting with the easiest first, it can't happen fast enough, as far as I'm concerned, and I'll

RE: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-10-29 Thread Tyler Durden
Sounds good, but there's a little flaw in the logic: At 10:07 PM 10/24/04 -0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote: If the only way to kill barbarians is to kill barbarians in their bed before they kill you in yours, to pave over nation-states that support them, starting with the easiest first, it can't happen

Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-10-29 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 4:16 PM -0400 10/29/04, John Kelsey wrote: looks like a waste of time and money I suppose we'll find out sooner or later. I'm not going to piss in the wind here on this anymore. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting

Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire

2004-10-29 Thread John Kelsey
From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 29, 2004 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire .. It has always amused me that libertarians and anarcho-capitalists insist on using the language of the left to describe the things they don't like. One