> Tyler Durden[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>
>
> "In school yard politics this edge is normally a weapon
> of some sort that can equalize the playing field (guns usually in the US,
> try going to an inner city public school for 2 years). Saddam sees this
> and
> that is what let him to deve
> Israeli tanks aren't the ONLY things that kill someone's
> kids. The whole
> region has been at war for 100's of years. If Israel backed
You do realize that the whole world has been at war for hundreds
of years, do you ? Israel is now the bully in the region, and is
conforted in keeping thi
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Vincent Penquerc'h wrote:
> I just hope that Americans see this, and see that what they're
> going to get from this behavior isn't world domination, but either
> a genocide of half the planet, or a life in a bared wire world,
> with no freedom left, in a vain attempt to protec
"Well, they have enough non-central leadership to all be against Israel and
the US. And to have been at war against the Israelies since Bible times..."
OK, Mike, this is a good example of the kind of "facts" that lead to fairly
easy (though erroneous) conclusions.
Let's have some history here.
I'll take this under consideration and see if I can verify it independantly.
What else can you ask of me?
Some questions, though
These people seem to be fighting over the same piece of land, where the
jewish Temple once stood, and where a Muslim Mosque now stands. This land,
of course b
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 03:06 pm, Trei, Peter wrote:
> > Mike Diehl[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
> You don't deny either of my surmises about your experience or lack
> thereof.
I didn't find them relevent. My understanding of the facts doesn't matter.
I was LOOKING for the f
"In school yard politics this edge is normally a weapon
of some sort that can equalize the playing field (guns usually in the US,
try going to an inner city public school for 2 years). Saddam sees this and
that is what let him to develop those WMD, to equalize against a superior
foe / bully"
A
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Subject: Re: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. Who
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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:37:38 -0700
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 03:30 pm, Jim Dix
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 03:30 pm, Jim Dixon wrote:
> More to the point, there were no Muslims in Biblical times. The
> Muslims appeared around 600 years after Christ, centuries after the
> beginning of the Jewish diaspora. The Romans drove the Jews out of
> Jerusalem and
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Let's have some history here. The "Muslims" have not been at war against the
> "Israelites" since Biblical times. That is completely wrong. Hell, there
> haven't been any "Israelites" for nearly two millenia.
More to the point, there were no Muslims in
> Mike Diehl[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
>
[Mike wrote: No, I think the Muslims need to back down, or be forced
to. ]
"[Muslims] Have been at war against the Israelies [sic] since Bible times"??
Mike, I hate to break it to you, but Muslims did not exist before
612 AD, when Mohammed receiv
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On 19 Nov 2002 at 15:45, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Mikey: I would suggest tangling with Chomsky for a bit. Start
> with...
>
> http://zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=2
> 312
Chomsky is a liar. His citations are mostly fraudulent, and he
has at one time or another defended
Mikey:
I would suggest tangling with Chomsky for a bit. Start with...
http://zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=2312
And then go from there. I have to agree with Peter Trei that your arguments
sound pretty pre-packaged and freeze-dried, very similar to the pablum the
American
> Mike Diehl[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes
[much snippage]
> . No, I think the Muslims need to back down, or be forced to.
[more snippage]
If you think 'the Muslims' are your enemy,
then you have a problem. 'The Muslims'
are not a monolithic group, and h
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:18 pm, Trei, Peter wrote:
> If you think 'the Muslims' are your enemy,
> then you have a problem.
I never said that they were MY enemy.
> 'The Muslims'
> are not a monolithic group, and have no
> central leadership. This is a bit lik
> How can anyone claim that the U.S. or Israel or corporations or rich
> Americans are morally worse than the likes of Hussein?
...I have to bow to the urge to answer
Note that everything that was proposed is bombing. Killing innocents,
in an attempt to make them revolt and overthrow their le
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