On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, A.Melon wrote:
> If you still want to say there's some kind of "hole" in quantum theory, then are you
>saying that if
> we fix this hole, QM will bve able to predict experimental outcomes to, say 20
>decimals rather than
> 10? (QM is by far the most sucesful physical theory ever developed.)
QM may be the most successfull theory ever developed, that doesn't say
much for QM but rather the frailty of other theories. Don't imply what
isn't there.
The fact is that QM -can not- answer things like the responce of entangled
photons or why 'a photon takes one slit instead of the other'.
And no, Relativity and QM have -not- been joined into a -single cohesive
theory-.
The -specific- problem with the example under discussion is that only
-one observer- (ie the two slit mechanism) is being considered and the
-other observer- (ie the photon itself) is being completely ignored.
What I -am- saying is that in this specific issue (ie behavior of
entangled photons -or- two slip experiments) the 'problem' of instant
state changes over distance doesn't actually happen. The reason being that
the state changes are -not- taking place in -our time-space framework- but
the -photons-. These two time-space frameworks are -not- the same.
Answer my question:
How big is the universe from a photons perspective; how does time work
from the photons perspective? When you can answer those two components the
'problem' will go away.
> Or if you want to weasel-word around this, then grapple with Ahranov-Bohm. How do
>the electrons
> "know" about the voltage of a removed zone? They have no connection with that zone
>whatsoever
> (unless you want to invoke the "Magentic Vector Potential", but then I
> guess its a complete coincidence that A-B accruately predicts the
> phenomenon...right?).
Whaledreck. How does the electron interact with -any- EM field (ie
voltage)? Via an 'intermediate vector boson', that's how. What is that
particle? A -photon-. How much difference in distance or time is there
-from the perspective of the photon- between the electron and the shielded
field? Answer, none. The reality is that the 'shield' is -only- a shield
in our frame of reference, it's nothing from the photons (it's comparable
in one way of thinking to being 'inside' a 3D box in a 4D universe and
being able to step out of the box without crossing -any- of the 3D sides
- would truly freek the 3D people out, you should read Rucker more ;).
>From a photons perspective it is everywhere, everywhen. It's a good thing
they are as weakly interacting as they are or we would live in a truly
strange cosmos with all sorts of time travel and instant distance effects.
It isn't a problem of physics, it's a problem of imagination.
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