Re: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME (Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick)

2002-05-24 Thread jamesd
-- On 23 May 2002 at 21:58, Adam Back wrote: > This won't achieve the desired effect because it will just > destroy the S/MIME trust mechanism. S/MIME is based on the > assumption that all CAs are trustworthy. Anyone can forge any > identity for clients with that key installed. S/MIME isn't

Re: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME (Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick)

2002-05-23 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Adam Back wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 03:05:49PM -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: > > So what if we create the Cypherpunks Root CA, which (either) signs > > what you submit to it via a web page, or publish the secret key? > > This won't achieve the desired effect because it w

RE: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME

2002-05-23 Thread Curt Smith
Self-signed and CA x.509 certificates cannot be used in Outlook even when they are added to the Trusted Root CA's. Apparently Outlook is able to distinguish between these and CA-issued x.509 certificates. --- "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can't speak for mail-only clients, but

RE: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME (Re: NAI pulls out the DM CA stick)

2002-05-23 Thread Trei, Peter
> Adam Back[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 03:05:49PM -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: > > So what if we create the Cypherpunks Root CA, which (either) signs > > what you submit to it via a web page, or publish the secret key? > [...] > > We then get the Cypherpunks Root

Re: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME (Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick)

2002-05-23 Thread Adam Back
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 03:05:49PM -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: > So what if we create the Cypherpunks Root CA, which (either) signs > what you submit to it via a web page, or publish the secret key? This won't achieve the desired effect because it will just destroy the S/MIME trust mechanism. S/

Re: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME (Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick)

2002-05-23 Thread Adam Shostack
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 07:10:01PM +0100, Adam Back wrote: | Certificate authorities also can forge certificates and issue | certificates in fake names if asked by government agencies. S/MIME is | too much under central control by design to be a sensible choice for | general individual use. So w