Re: Computer Voting Expert, Dr. Rebecca Mercuri, Ousted From Elections Conference

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Shostack
Well, if you can't win on the truth, win on the procedures. At least Dr. Mercuri is in fine company there, ranging all the way back to Socrates and Galileo. Little consolation, I know, as our democracy gets replaced by a kleptocracy, but what can you do? Maybe she should set up

Re: Computer Voting Expert, Dr. Rebecca Mercuri, Ousted From Elections Conference

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Shostack
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 01:49:26PM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: | At 11:54 2003-08-06 -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: | Well, if you can't win on the truth, win on the procedures. | | At least Dr. Mercuri is in fine company there, ranging all the way | back to Socrates and Galileo. Little consolation,

Re: Computer Voting Expert, Dr. Rebecca Mercuri, Ousted From Elections Conference

2003-08-14 Thread Harmon Seaver
Here's another one. On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 12:20:30PM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: At 09:46 2003-08-06 -0700, Tim May wrote: I was intensely opposed to the gibberish about how the Republicans stole the Florida vote, for multiple reasons. First, the Dems wanted to change the rules after

Re: Computer Voting Expert, Dr. Rebecca Mercuri, Ousted From Elections Conference

2003-08-14 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 1:56 PM -0400 8/6/03, R. A. Hettinga wrote: cannot prevent -3 negative miscount can prevent of course. Maybe I should apply for a job as a school superintendent... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation

Re: Computer Voting Expert, Dr. Rebecca Mercuri, Ousted From Elections Conference

2003-08-14 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 08:54 AM, Adam Shostack wrote: Well, if you can't win on the truth, win on the procedures. At least Dr. Mercuri is in fine company there, ranging all the way back to Socrates and Galileo. Little consolation, I know, as our democracy gets replaced by a

Re: Computer Voting Expert, Dr. Rebecca Mercuri, Ousted From Elections Conference

2003-08-14 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:48 PM 8/6/03 -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: Huh? Voters don't control the security of the voting system any more than we control the security of the credit rating/id theft system. The only way to show vote fraud would be to get enough voters to document that the State lied. That would depend