Re: Terror Reading

2003-09-02 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
would go to a fucking library to do terror reading (maybe there is something positive here - I think that we should get protected by pigs from extremely dumb terorists.) The risk is not one terrorists have to fear. The biggest problem with the librarian narc program is the same as most

Re: Terror Reading

2003-09-02 Thread Tim May
On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 12:03 PM, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: The risk is not one terrorists have to fear. The biggest problem with the librarian narc program is the same as most of these anti-terrorism measures: completely innocent people are harassed, arrested, or placed under suspicion.

Re: Terror Reading

2003-09-02 Thread Eric Cordian
Tim wrote: Even the owner of my ISP is narcing me out. Read what he wrote recently to a Net.Nazi who wanted my speech limited: I'm sorry that Tim is being a bother again. He has a long history of being obnoxious and threatening. So far, he has not broken any laws. We have talked to the

Re: Terror Reading

2003-09-02 Thread Harmon Seaver
of apartment buildings and filed reports on the comings and goings of their flock). The purpose of this is purely a show and indoctrination. 1. No self-respecting terrorist would go to a fucking library to do terror reading (maybe there is something positive here - I think that we

Re: Terror Reading

2003-08-31 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, August 30, 2003, at 03:44 PM, Steve Furlong wrote: On Saturday 30 August 2003 14:46, Tim May wrote: Even the owner of my ISP is narcing me out. Read what he wrote recently to a Net.Nazi who wanted my speech limited: (snip) Huh. Did the ISP cc you on that, or did the would-be

Re: Terror Reading

2003-08-31 Thread Anonymous
that were once so common in the Soviet Union (the babushkas who sat on each floor of apartment buildings and filed reports on the comings and goings of their flock). The purpose of this is purely a show and indoctrination. 1. No self-respecting terrorist would go to a fucking library to do terror

Re: Terror Reading

2003-08-31 Thread Steve Furlong
On Saturday 30 August 2003 14:46, Tim May wrote: Even the owner of my ISP is narcing me out. Read what he wrote recently to a Net.Nazi who wanted my speech limited: (snip) Huh. Did the ISP cc you on that, or did the would-be censor forward it to you as a warning that he held your access in

Re: Terror Reading

2003-08-29 Thread Tim May
On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 09:46 AM, Steve Schear wrote: At 10:48 AM 6/26/2002 -0400, Kathleen Dolan wrote: In many states, it is illegal to store records showing who borrowed a book from a public library. Maryland, for example, requires destruction of the record after a point and even

Re: Terror Reading

2003-08-29 Thread Bryan L. Fordham
Steve Schear wrote: Looks like at least one library is trying a variation the method I suggested... The Patriot Act also prohibits libraries and others from notifying patrons and others that an investigation is ongoing. At least one library has tried a solution to beat the system by regularly

Re: Terror Reading

2003-08-29 Thread Steve Schear
At 10:48 AM 6/26/2002 -0400, Kathleen Dolan wrote: In many states, it is illegal to store records showing who borrowed a book from a public library. Maryland, for example, requires destruction of the record after a point and even backups cannot be accessed without a court order. KAD Say a public

Re: Terror Reading

2002-06-27 Thread Harmon Seaver
Ah yes, you're absolutely correct. Larger libraries, especially university libraries, have been online forever. I was thinking of the smaller public libraries, most of which have been getting computerized more recently. On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 01:57:38PM +0100, Ken Brown wrote: Harmon

Re: Terror Reading

2002-06-26 Thread Michael Motyka
Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : It was my understanding that libraries destroy records of patrons' activity as soon as the books are returned. Nonetheless, this is an interesting Federal fishing expedition, with warrants issued by secret courts, and criminal penalties for librarians