In a message dated 3/30/04 9:54:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
also that Nevada case pending in the Supremes *may* mean that
you must present papers. There was also a decision
last year IIRC that said that car *passengers* had to show ID
if asked. Not drivers, passengers.
If you're not the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're not the driver and you don't drive you don't have to have
an ID. And you can't show what you don't have.
IIRC, in the case above the guy was outside his car - his daughter (still
in the car) may well have been the driver, not him
At 10:22 AM 3/30/2004, Eric Cordian wrote:
So of course, society's interest in protecting police officers allows New
Orleans police to search your home or business at any time, for any
reason, or for no reason at all. As long as the cop mumbles something
about making sure he's safe.
The
At 04:35 PM 3/30/04 -0600, bgt wrote:
You need ID to drive, bus, train, or fly... I guess all that's left is
walking and possibly biking. :P
The police can ask for ID if you're walking and fit a description
(negro in plaid shirt I believe was the instance);
also that Nevada case pending in the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No one gets those. But its possible that over-zealous cops could
seize your $5000 Lightspeed because it doesn't have a $2 city
sticker... for every city you ride through.
I managed to get a ticket for riding my bike on the wrong side of the
road. When the cop told me
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:43:21PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
At 04:35 PM 3/30/04 -0600, bgt wrote:
You need ID to drive, bus, train, or fly... I guess all that's left is
walking and possibly biking. :P
Not sure if biking on a road requires ID
It doesn't.
You'll get harassed by cops
It's really getting to the point where judges don't even go through the
motions of respecting the Constitution any more. All they have to do is
recite the magic words that Society's Overwhelming Interest in
protecting its children, police officers, kitty cats, or whatever,
overrides whatever
Bill Stewart wrote:
Marbury vs. Madison was an entertainingly kinky case,
but the ability of judges to declare laws or executive actions
Unconstitutional and therefore void is the main thing that's
made the Bill of Rights effective (to the extent it has
93:
One of the nice things about ignorance is that it is curable. Unlike
Neo-Conservatism.
Or more accurately - Neo CONfidence artist. Would be nice to turn those
into NEO convicts, but we may as well dream of a free country.
Many, many, thanks go to Richard Clarke for exposing the truth we
risen high enough that
local judges are now in on the action. Next time a government official talks
about protecting the public try to see if he winks into the camera...
-TD
From: Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Gilmore Dimissal
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:22:35
On Mar 30, 2004, at 13:22, Bill Stewart wrote:
Greyhound demands ID at some locations as well;
my brother got surprised when his trip,
which hadn't demanded ID on the way out,
got routed through Chicago on the return and they did demand
ID.
I was curious about
I was curious about that. I notice now that Amtrak requires ID as well:
http://www.amtrak.com/idrequire.html
Does anyone know when this happened, or have experiences with having to
show ID on Amtrak?
Sometime before early January this year, at least (probably significantly
before).
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:18:29PM -0500, sunder wrote:
So, I'm not quite current about the Gilmore dismissal - is the subject line
misspelled? Is there some URL regarding news of this? I take it from the
gripes that John's lawsuit against Asscruft re: flying without ID was
dismissed?
I
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:01:57PM -0500, Jack Lloyd wrote:
Sometime before early January this year, at least (probably significantly
before). However, from DC Union Station (and probably many other stations),
you
can use the automated ticket system which 'only' asks for a credit card, no
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