Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:34 PM 7/16/04 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > I posted a few months back offering an alternative to religion in >> > recruitment: the terminally ill. >> >> That's not good for this purpose; their lifetime is too short. > >Do you have evidence to support this (e.g., average survivial time

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-16 Thread Nostra2004
> > Actually, frequent prosecutions could work to the advantage of a select > > few who choose to become martyrs. Since it would make it much more > > likely supplicants would be called upon. > > Please explain this thought? If people are intentionally trying to set up the jackbooted thugs to

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-14 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:28 AM 7/13/04 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: >Bumazhkas? I thought I was pretty familiar with most weapons of the world, >but not Bumazhkas. What calibre are they? I've always liked those CZ Model 52 >pistols and Model 32 subguns in .30Mauser. Loaded hot with a teflon coated >bullet they sho

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-13 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 07:03:14PM +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > > That's a matter of course. At the moment the Men with Bumazhkas come, it's > too late to act. > Bumazhkas? I thought I was pretty familiar with most weapons of the world, but not Bumazhkas. What calibre are they? I've alwa

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-12 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >But we have a psychological mechanism here; many people tend to be > >"tough" when not under direct threat. Then they implement the > >mechanism. Then years flow by. Then the prosecutors come. But by then > >it is too late to cooperate. They are

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-11 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: > This may best be accomplished by placing the data offshore and empowering the > db operators with some non-repudiatable right of disclosure (especially under > duress of a warrant). This may be impractical in some cases. > Some months back I discussed a

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-11 Thread Bill Stewart
At 01:44 PM 7/9/2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Is it possible to write a database access protocol, that would in some mathematically bulletproof way ensure that the fact a database record is accessed is made known to at least n people? A way that would ensure that either nobody can see the data, or a

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-11 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:44 PM 7/9/2004, you wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: > Quite a few book stores (including the local Half-Priced Books) now keep no > records not required and some do not even automate and encourage their patron > to pay cash. In California book sellers to such used/remaindered

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-11 Thread Nostra2004
>At 05:22 PM 7/9/2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: >>On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: >> Some months back I discussed a procedural methodology where patrons could find >> out if their records hand been accessed in a way that circumvented court >> orders. I was told that it might work but that

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-11 Thread Sunder
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Bill Stewart wrote: > At 01:44 PM 7/9/2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > >Is it possible to write a database access protocol, that would in some > >mathematically bulletproof way ensure that the fact a database record is > >accessed is made known to at least n people? A way that

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-09 Thread alan
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: > > > Quite a few book stores (including the local Half-Priced Books) now keep no > > records not required and some do not even automate and encourage their patron > > to pay cash. In California book sellers

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-09 Thread Steve Schear
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 9 Jul 2004 13:26:01 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt User-Agent: SlashdotNewsScooper/0.0.3 Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/09/1145225 Posted by: michael, on 2004-07-09 12:49:00 Topic:

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-09 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: > Quite a few book stores (including the local Half-Priced Books) now keep no > records not required and some do not even automate and encourage their patron > to pay cash. In California book sellers to such used/remaindered stores must > identify themselv

USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
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