Re: Which universe are we in? (tossing tennis balls into spinning props)

2002-07-18 Thread drs
On n Tuesday, July 16, 2002, at 11:02 Tim May wrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, at 10:39 AM, Peter Fairbrother wrote: Oh dear. QM does rule out internal states. I didn't think I would have to explain why I capitalised Bell, but perhaps it was a bit too subtle. Google Bell and

Re: Which universe are we in? (tossing tennis balls into spinning props)

2002-07-16 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:27 PM 7/15/02 +0100, Peter Fairbrother wrote: Optimizzin Al-gorithym wrote: And while QM can't help you with a particular atom, it also doesn't say that its impossible that knowledge of internal states of the atom wouldn't help you predict its fragmentation. Yes it does. Heisenberg

Re: Which universe are we in? (tossing tennis balls into spinning props)

2002-07-16 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, at 10:39 AM, Peter Fairbrother wrote: Oh dear. QM does rule out internal states. I didn't think I would have to explain why I capitalised Bell, but perhaps it was a bit too subtle. Google Bell and inequalities, and go from there. I disagree. Bell's Inequality

Re: Which universe are we in? (tossing tennis balls into spinning props)

2002-07-15 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: The uncertainty principle says that there is a limit on the information about position and change in position that you can collect. It does not rule out internal states. Yes it does, it says that any time you measure a system it WILL be in an

Re: Which universe are we in? (tossing tennis balls into spinning props)

2002-07-14 Thread Optimizzin Al-gorithym
At 03:21 PM 7/14/02 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: Eric Cordian wrote: Still, Nature abhors overcomplexification, and plain old quantum mechanics works just fine for predicting the results of experiments. Oh yeah? So predict when this radioactive isotope will decay, if you please. You mean this

Re: Which universe are we in?

2002-07-14 Thread Ben Laurie
Eric Cordian wrote: Still, Nature abhors overcomplexification, and plain old quantum mechanics works just fine for predicting the results of experiments. Oh yeah? So predict when this radioactive isotope will decay, if you please. Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html

Re: Which universe are we in?

2002-07-09 Thread Tim May
On Monday, July 8, 2002, at 07:43 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: Dear Tim, Are you tacitly assuming some kind of communication between observers when you make the claim of a convergence? Adsent said communications, could we show that the convergence would still obtain? Have you ever

Re: Which universe are we in?

2002-07-09 Thread Tim May
On Monday, July 8, 2002, at 08:39 PM, Tim May wrote: No, I was arguing that while the future may be multi-worlded, everything we know about science (evidence, archaeology, measurements, ...) points to a _single_ past. Sorry about this misdirection to the CP list. It was meant to go to

Re: Which universe are we in?

2002-07-09 Thread Eric Cordian
Time postulates: No, I was arguing that while the future may be multi-worlded, everything we know about science (evidence, archaeology, measurements, ...) points to a _single_ past. The laws of physics, including the laws of quantum mechanics, are symmetric with respect to the arrow of