Re: legally required forgetting

2004-04-15 Thread John Kelsey
At 07:20 PM 4/10/04 -0400, An Metet wrote: .. BlackNet thwarts such limitations on the reporting of consumer credit. Clearly, providing access to this data harms individual privacy. Yet Cypherpunks traditionally have supported this concept. A privacy advocacy group promotes technology which would

Re: legally required forgetting

2004-04-11 Thread petard
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 10:33:39AM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Thanks for the distinction, however it still makes CC folks slaves of the State. Suppose Joe Badcredit finds a blank application and applies? The State then uses violence to coerce the CC into non-consensual transactions.

RE: Gmail as Blacknet (legally required forgetting)

2004-04-10 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:16 PM 4/9/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: (As an aside, although debt has to be -forgiven- after 7 years, contrary to popular belief it is not true that a debt has to be -forgotten-...I know of one credit major card company that will not accept 'new' cardmembers that didn't pay back what they

RE: legally required forgetting

2004-04-10 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:18 AM 4/10/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: What the law actually states is (basically) a defaulted loan must be forgiven after seven years. In other words, it is illegal to continue to attempt to collect on a loan, 7 years after the default. However, it is perfectly legal to remember that an

Re: legally required forgetting

2004-04-10 Thread An Metet
Regarding the question of whether debt must be merely 'forgiven' or actually 'forgotten', see http://www.epic.org/privacy/fcra for information on the Fair Credit Reporting Act of 1970: The FCRA limits the length of time some information can appear in a consumer report. For instance, bankruptcies

RE: Gmail as Blacknet (legally required forgetting)

2004-04-10 Thread Tyler Durden
to forcibly or legally shut him down, then one probably needs killing. -TD From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Gmail as Blacknet (legally required forgetting) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:35:47 -0700 At 05:16 PM 4/9/04 -0400, Tyler Durden

Re: Gmail as Blacknet (legally required forgetting)

2004-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Tyler Durden writes: What the law actually states is (basically) a defaulted loan must be forgiven after seven years. In other words, it is illegal to continue to attempt to collect on a loan, 7 years after the default. There are different levels of illegal. The most important one is the