Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines

2003-03-04 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:49 PM 03/03/2003 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Just some out of the box thinking here about Delta... I wonder. Is there some form of petty vandalism that can be performed by a Delta passenger that would make his flight MUCH less than profitable for Delta? (I mean, one that probably won't get

Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines

2003-03-04 Thread Steve Schear
At 08:49 PM 3/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: Just some out of the box thinking here about Delta... I wonder. Is there some form of petty vandalism that can be performed by a Delta passenger that would make his flight MUCH less than profitable for Delta? (I mean, one that probably won't get you

Re: CDR: Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines

2003-03-04 Thread Jamie Lawrence
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003, Bill Stewart wrote: At 08:49 PM 03/03/2003 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: [...] I wonder. Is there some form of petty vandalism that can be performed by a Delta passenger that would make his flight MUCH less than profitable for Delta? (I mean, one that probably won't get

DAL Delta Air Lines Boycott Underway

2003-03-04 Thread Bill Scannell
In response to Delta Air Line's utter lack of concern with the privacy of their customers demonstrated by their participation in a test of the CAPPS II system, a Delta disinvestment campaign has been launched at: http://www.boycottdelta.org . The idea of citizens having to undergo a background

Re: Rogue Vally Cypherpunks Physical Meeting Mar 13

2003-03-04 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:55 AM 3/4/03 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are Cypherpunks? A group of thinkers, programmers and researchers dedicated to preserve everyone's freedom of speech through action. * believers in crypto-anarchy, * leaning towards libertarianism, * most

How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Seminars/SeminarDescription.htm#Classify The Commerce Department's Bureau of Information and Security (BIS), formerly known as the Bureau of Export Administration (BXA), will host a half day seminar in Washington DC titled How Do I Classify My Item?. The seminar will

Anarchy, and confusion

2003-03-04 Thread Tim May
The confusion about anarchy and what it means is common. We see it here. Perhaps some of us have not done enough to try to educate people. Mostly, I think we have already written enough and if people will not think deeply about the issues, will not read at least _some_ of the

Re: How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:25:21PM -0800, Tim May wrote: For those outside the government, since when did they start worrying about classifying their own stuff? Not only that, this below meeting was from this morning (if it's partly closed, the open meeting is boring as hell, so I didn't go).

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2003-03-04 Thread Bill Frantz
At 1:08 PM -0800 3/4/03, Tim May quoted: If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around. --attribution uncertain, possibly Gunner, on Usenet Would the converse read? If I'm going to reach out to

Re: How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote: For those doing the classifying, i.e., those inside government, since when did they start charging each other real folding money for attending meetings? Capitalism maybe ? :-) For those outside the government, since when did they start worrying about

Re: How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-04 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 01:09 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote: http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Seminars/SeminarDescription.htm#Classify The Commerce Department's Bureau of Information and Security (BIS), formerly known as the Bureau of Export Administration (BXA), will host a half day seminar in

DoJ to get new top lobbyist to push for PATRIOT II

2003-03-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
The President intends to nominate William Emil Moschella of Virginia, to be Assistant Attorney General (Legislative Affairs). Mr. Moschella is currently the Chief Legislative Counsel and Parliamentarian for the House Committee on the Judiciary, where he previously served as Chief Investigative

Re: Cavium Security Processor

2003-03-04 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:38 PM 03/03/2003 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: But basically I was thinking about Packet-over-SONET (POS), which is PPP encapsulated HDLC framed IP. So after the POS link was terminated, I imagined that this little device would basically now look at the raw IP and do some pre-processing

Re: CAPSII protest...

2003-03-04 Thread Michael Motyka
Yes Tyler, there is something nasty you can do that will not get you nabbed. It requires the following equipment : airline ticket ( aisle seat ) large pizza with the works quart of yogurt one dozen raw oysters one package of MMs ipecac syrup ( or a wafer-thin mint ) Just imagine the effect

Re: The burn-off of Tom Veil

2003-03-04 Thread Tom Veil
Tyler Durden wrote on February 21, 2003 at 09:47:01 -0500: What part of my above paragraph did you not understand? The rancor part. Let's take your line of reasoning another step. Imagine you get robbed at gunpoint by some masked caucasian. He steals your Ventura watch as well as all your

Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines

2003-03-04 Thread Tyler Durden
Vandalism is wrong. Yeah, ain't that a shame? Sure is fun though! Education isn't. Well, some of the proposed ideas may be more efficient, but they don't exactly express my rage accurately... -TD Next time you fly, you could leave some flyers in the terminal. They'll get cleaned up, and

Re: Cavium Security Processor

2003-03-04 Thread Tyler Durden
Goody goody! Telecom geek talk! (Any chance you're female, curvy, and about 5'8? What are wearing right now.) Anyway, Bill Stewart wrote... You'd be surprised - we're seeing tons of interest in it at ATT, partly because of MAN vendors like Yipes and OnFiber (who bought Telseon) and partly