Re: If you didn't pay for it, you've stolen it!

2003-10-25 Thread Steve Schear
At 03:00 PM 10/24/2003 -0400, Cael Abal wrote: What *is* a library? 1. A library is legal. A library needn't be licensed by any state entity. 2. Thus, I can declare my computer a library. The only requirement is that I own a license to what I lend, and that only 1 user exercise that license at a

Re: If you use encryption, you help the terrorists win

2003-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:52 PM 10/24/03 -0700, Tim May wrote: The U.S. had plans for the contracts to deploy cellphones to go to American companies, but the local puppets must have had no fear of the Americans, as they went with a better bribe: mostly Arabic cellphone providers will deploy the initial system. Yes,

Re: If you didn't pay for it, you've stolen it!

2003-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
[Chronic readers can skip this..] At 12:08 AM 10/25/03 -0400, BillyGOTO wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 03:11:27PM -0700, Tim May wrote: On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 02:04 PM, BillyGOTO wrote: Not really. Libraries have to pay more than we do for their subscriptions. Be careful using the

Re: If you use encryption, you help the terrorists win

2003-10-25 Thread Tyler Durden
Tim May wrote... I predict we'll soon be seeing a new thought control campaign with this theme, that if you use encryption, you help the terrorists win. Well, I'm dubious. Right now I'm thinking their strategy has been to pull encryption down off of the social radar, and that's worked better

Re: If you use encryption, you help the terrorists win [Reply to Durden]

2003-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:27 PM 10/25/03 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: frontol assault. Also watch carefully for hole-pokers...I'd bet their's also been disinfo campaigns to get the public to think that no crypto is secure (every ask anyone if they believed there was such a thing as effectively 'unbreakable' encryption?

Re: If you didn't pay for it, you've stolen it! [reply to Sunder]

2003-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 07:01 AM 10/25/03 -0400, Sunder wrote: If you bought an audio DVD and your car doesn't have a DVD player, or your only portable stereo system can only play tapes, you're not allowed to legally copy the music off the DVD onto other media to play in other devices. IANAL so I'm not actually sure