Re: ID Rules Exist, But Can't Be Seen

2004-10-01 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: If this is the case, then this reveals what I would argue to be a dangerous mindset: The government needs to protect the people from themselves...ie, from the normal operation of democracy. On Cyperhpunks I would suppose this does not seem suprising.

Re: ID Rules Exist, But Can't Be Seen

2004-10-01 Thread John Kelsey
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 30, 2004 5:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ID Rules Exist, But Can't Be Seen .. For instance, is it indeed possible that revealing this rule would pose an additional security risk? If such a rule exists (and it does) then hijackers obviously

Re: ID Rules Exist, But Can't Be Seen

2004-10-01 Thread Tyler Durden
John Kelsey wrote... Maybe. I guess the thing that's confusing about any of these answers is that the rules as they're applied must be propogated to thousands of people. It's not like they could easily hide guidance like no more than 10 Arabs per flight or double-screen anyone with brown skin

Re: ID Rules Exist, But Can't Be Seen

2004-10-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:06 PM 9/30/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: I post this not as a refernce per se, but to ask the question: Exactly Why Does the Government Not Want to Reveal Their ID Rules? For instance, is it indeed possible that revealing this rule would pose an additional security risk? If such a rule

Re: ID Rules Exist, But Can't Be Seen

2004-10-01 Thread Steve Furlong
Talking out his ass, Tyler Durden wrote: That's a good point. And those screeners ain't exactly the cream of the crop, if ya' know what I mean. A year ago they were making minimum wage, so if someone wanted a copy of those guidelines, it'd be easy as hell to con it out of one of em.

Re: Federal program to monitor everyone on the road

2004-10-01 Thread Hal Finney
There was a brief mention of this technology at the Crypto conference. I provided some pointers in a comment to an Ed Felten blog entry at http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000677.html#comments (scroll down to the 3rd comment). Dan Boneh et al presented a proposal for a group signature

Federal program to monitor everyone on the road

2004-10-01 Thread Sunder
http://www.boingboing.net/2004/10/01/federal_program_to_m.html Federal program to monitor everyone on the road Interesting article about the Fed's plans to develop an all-knowing intelligent highway system. Most people have probably never heard of the agency, called the Intelligent

RE: QC Hype Watch: Quantum cryptography gets practical

2004-10-01 Thread Tyler Durden
What's a quantum repeater in this context? As for Hype Watch, I tend to agree, but I also believe that Gelfond (who I spoke to last year) actually does have a 'viable' system. Commerically viable is another thing entirely, however. -TD From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Call for Papers: ShmooCon. 2005. No moose. We swear.

2004-10-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
http://www.shmoocon.org/cfp.html Washington, D.C. Call for Papers [PDF] http://www.shmoocon.org The Shmoo Group is soliciting papers and presentations for the first annual ShmooCon. ShmooCon 2005 will be a highly-technical and entertaining East coast hacker convention focused on technology

CFP: Privacy Enhancing Technologies (PET 2005)

2004-10-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Patriot Act Misinformation

2004-10-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB109659214177033379,00.html The Wall Street Journal October 1, 2004 REVIEW OUTLOOK Patriot Act Misinformation October 1, 2004; Page A14 The American Civil Liberties Union has been spinning its victory in a federal court in New York this week as a

'Frustrated' U.S. Cybersecurity Chief Abruptly Resigns

2004-10-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
http://www.local6.com/print/3776699/detail.html?use=print local6.com 'Frustrated' U.S. Cybersecurity Chief Abruptly Resigns POSTED: 11:32 AM EDT October 1, 2004 WASHINGTON -- The government's cybersecurity chief has abruptly resigned after one year with the Department of Homeland Security,