Re: Love It or Leave It

2004-11-05 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 6:34 PM -0800 11/4/04, Bill Stewart wrote: I have to agree with the critics of Kerry who said that he was aloof and out of touch with Middle America .. and it's a big middle this year: http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/BushCountry04Map.jpg Of course, there's the nuanced version, but,

Re: Finding Galt's Gulch (fwd)

2004-11-05 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 08:05:34PM -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: Where does one go today, if they are unwilling to participate in the Failed Experiment? (BTW: No, Lichtenstein does not accept immigrants, and yes, I have reverified this recently). Go East. Fortunes are made there. -- Eugen*

Re: This Memorable Day

2004-11-05 Thread James A. Donald
-- Nomen Nescio wrote: To label any argument that points out the obvious circumstance that injustice feeds hatred as communist propaganda, is really only ridiculous, even if it's also dangerously incompetent and as such no real laughing matter. Why do you mention Bin Laden anyway? There

RE: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread Michael_Heyman
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Finney, Hal (CR) [SNIP discussion on ripping cash] The problem is that if the source code you are purchasing is bogus, or if the other side doesn't come through, you're screwed because you've lost the value of the torn

Re: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread Enzo Michelangeli
- Original Message - From: Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:01 AM Tyler Durden writes: So my newbie-style question is, is there an eGold that can be verified, but not accessed, until a 'release' code is sent? In other words, say I'm buying some

Cryptography Research Takes Aim at Content Pirates

2004-11-05 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041105/sff023_1.html?printer=1 Yahoo! Finance Source: Cryptography Research, Inc. Cryptography Research VP Benjamin Jun Takes Aim at Content Pirates Friday November 5, 6:02 am ET Discusses Technology Trends and Responses at Upcoming RSA Conference Europe 2004 SAN

Close the 49th Parallel

2004-11-05 Thread Sgt . preston
This business of blue states joining Canada is rich. Please keep it up; begging would be delightful. Actually there is a somewhat academic book published some years ago by Mike Adams called Sex in the Snow which discusses the apparent values congruence between the blue states and most but not

RE: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Hal Finney wrote: Another idea along these lines is gradual payment for gradual release of the goods. You pay 10% of the amount and they give you 10% of the source code. You pay another 10% and you get the next 10% of the source, and so on. Just as an aside, this is in

Re: Love It or Leave It

2004-11-05 Thread Bill Stewart
Bob continues to forward entertaining and occasionally insightful articles to the list. From the bluesy side of the fence, Moby wrote: can someone remind me why secession is not an option at this point? Meanwhile, on the Commie-colored side of the fence, Mike Thompson of HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE

Re: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread Tyler Durden
Ben Laurie made a lot of useful points. However,... Simultaneous release is (provably?) impossible without a trusted third party. I don't think I believe this. Or at least, I don't think it's true to the extent necessary to make the original application impossible. Consider: I send you money

Re: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread Ben Laurie
Tyler Durden wrote: Hum. So my newbie-style question is, is there an eGold that can be verified, but not accessed, until a 'release' code is sent? proof-of-delivery protocols might help (but they're patented, as I discovered when I reinvented them a few years back). In other words, say I'm

Re: Cryptography Research Takes Aim at Content Pirates

2004-11-05 Thread Will Morton
R.A. Hettinga wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041105/sff023_1.html?printer=1 Yahoo! Finance Source: Cryptography Research, Inc. Cryptography Research VP Benjamin Jun Takes Aim at Content Pirates Friday November 5, 6:02 am ET Discusses Technology Trends and Responses at Upcoming RSA Conference

Re: Blue Democrats Lost Red America

2004-11-05 Thread John Young
A shallow, stale spin, unduly sanctimonious, and highly presumptive of the legitimacy of election reports. Same vapid shit to fill news void would have been written if Kerry squeaked by.

Finding Galt's Gulch (fwd)

2004-11-05 Thread J.A. Terranson
So, it's the night of the day of the morning after, and all around us are masses milling in despair over the destruction of freedom that has occurred here over the last four years. Given that the US was the Gulch to the brain drain of the Soviet Union, where does a true capitalist, or even just

Re: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:01:41 -0500, Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... My photo-bundle receives the releases and opens, and then shoots off a message that activates the pre-release on your end, giving you the cash. Is a 3rd party necessary here? I don't see it, but then again I could

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-05 Thread John Young
Well, this is just commie propaganda. Bob, you know this is against list rules, everybody knows what's right, stop blue-baiting, you fucking nazi.

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-05 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 1:05 PM -0800 11/5/04, John Young wrote: Bob, you know this is against list rules, everybody knows what's right, stop blue-baiting, you fucking nazi. :-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation

Re: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread Taral
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 03:01:15PM -0800, Hal Finney wrote: Another idea along these lines is gradual payment for gradual release of the goods. You pay 10% of the amount and they give you 10% of the source code. You pay another 10% and you get the next 10% of the source, and so on. (Or it

Re: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread Tyler Durden
What if I block the outbound release the money message after I unbundle the images. Sure, I've already committed my money, but you can't get to it. In effect I've just ripped you off, because I have usable product and you don't have usable money. Well, yes, but this would be a very significant

Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-05 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Here ya go, John and Bill, Knock yourselves out... :-) Cheers, RAH --- http://slate.msn.com/toolbar.aspx?action=printid=2109218 Slate politics Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue The unteachable ignorance of the red states. By Jane Smiley Updated Thursday, Nov. 4, 2004, at 3:24 PM

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-05 Thread Tyler Durden
I dunno...a lot of it made sense to me. You don't have to be a Commie in order to believe that someone ELSE believes there's a class war, and that they gotta keep us black folks po', or else we'll soon be having sex with their wives and daughters and competing with their sons for decent jobs.

Re: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread Hal Finney
Enzo Michelangeli writes: In the world of international trade, where mutual distrust between buyer and seller is often the rule and there is no central authority to enforce the law, this is traditionally achieved by interposing not less than three trusted third parties: the shipping line, the

RE: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-05 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 10:18 AM -0800 11/5/04, Hal Finney wrote: Yes, I'm looking at ideas like this for ecash gambling, but you have a who-goes-first problem. Whenever we talk about financial applications, where the assets represented by one bearer certificate are

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-05 Thread John Young
Tyler, Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere as the most fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a term of endearment, and also admirable role model by some. Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity. Tim May, praise Allah, always claimed

Election with Hunter

2004-11-05 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Last blue-baiting post, I swear. Gotta love HST, especially after the ether kicks in... Cheers, RAH --- http://www.aspendailynews.com/Search_Articles/view_search_article.cfm?OrderNumber=9156 Aspen Daily News Friday, November 5, 2004 11/4/04 Election with Hunter By Troy Hooper/Aspen