Re:The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-06 Thread Bill Stewart

At 05:09 PM 7/5/2005, J.A. Terranson wrote:

OSince I am out of state, the letter's return address serves as my proof
of address, however, it also (according to several city corpses^H^H^H
droids) meand that I need:

* One (1) of the following forms of valid photo-ID:
* Driver license
* Non-Driver Photo-ID Card
* Passport

*and*

one of anything else.  Of course, the problem is that these three
require the BC...


Your postal mail forwards from your old address, doesn't it?
And your old driver's license is still valid,
though the state you moved to wants to hit you up for a new one of theirs.

Alternatively,  if you prefer the Two From Column B menu,
it should be easy to get a letter from a government agency -
just get a traffic ticket (:-) or write them about something bureaucratic,
like how to get a driver's license, or a complaint to your State 
Assemblycritter,

and Bob oughta be your uncle.



Re: [Antisocial] The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-06 Thread bkfsec

J.A. Terranson wrote:




Durbin was right.  And he didn't even scratch the surface!  Anyone who
thinks this Real ID Act is about getting false ID out of the hands of
The Terrorists is an idiot: they will simply print their own drivers
licenses - this is about forcing the regular population to get used to
intrastate passports.  This act essentially forces you to have a passport
for everyday things like banking, car purchases and certain repairs,
checks, etc.

We have literally allowed the Nazification to begin, and we've even
welcomed it with eager open arms - all in the name of Fighting Terror.
Crystal clear, pure unadulterated bullshit.

 

Of course, the irony is that any computer security or ID specialist can 
tell you that the premise of the bill is utter crap.  Like you said, 
they'll just print their own...


-Barry




Re: [Antisocial] The Nazification Of America, Part 2 (Day 5)

2005-07-06 Thread Jason Coombs

J.A. Terranson wrote:

administrative fiat and endless taxation, and all we can worry about is
that some ephemeral Terrorist is going to blow up a bus?  To be honest,


Come now, J.A., you know very well that we are all afraid that somebody 
will smuggle a chicken from Asia into a major metropolitan area of the 
U.S. -- it's not the bus we're trying to stop, but the chicken, from 
crossing the road: while infected with something nasty and contagious.


REAL ID is meant to stop the contagious-chicken smugglers. Are you one?

Cheers,

Jason Coombs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-06 Thread Ulex Europae
At 15:46 05-07-05 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tyler Durden

 These are crummy ideas, so relax. But I suspect something is possible.
 
 -TD

2. Similarly, and even simpler, turn strategic portions of
your property into wetlands or vernal pools. Similar protections
vs development apply.

Works perfectly in theory, doesn't always work in practice:

http://www.wmnf.org/programming/news.php?ReportId=2060

Ulex



Re: Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-06 Thread John Kelsey
Hey, I think I saw a bald eagle roosting up in that tree.  You know, the one 
next to those buried Indian artifacts, right next to those rusting metal drums 
I got from Russel Bliss.

--John



Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good

2005-07-06 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Tyler Durden wrote:

 Well, fat chance. Do the liberals actually DO anything besides talk? At
 least the rabid Christian right can organize some painful activities. The
 liberal left only seem to try to make enough of a stink for someone else
 to do something. As the feds shut down their printing presses, they'll
 bemoan the loss of rights while handing over the keys without a fight.

 OK, if this isn't true I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Unfortunately, this is all too true.  The evidence is everywhere around
you - asking someone to try and disprove it is disingenuous :-(

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
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Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public
plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to
the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always
be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by
predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty.

Joseph Pulitzer
1907 Speech



Re:The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-06 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Duncan Frissell wrote:

 http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/birth.htm

 Identification Requirements - application must be submitted with copies of
 either A or B:
 * One (1) of the following forms of valid photo-ID:
 * Driver license
 * Non-Driver Photo-ID Card
 * Passport
 * Employment ID
 * Two (2) of the following showing the applicant's name and address:
 * Utility or telephone bills
 * Letter from a government agency dated within the last six (6) months

Since I am out of state, the letter's return address serves as my proof
of address, however, it also (according to several city corpses^H^H^H
droids) meand that I need:

* One (1) of the following forms of valid photo-ID:
* Driver license
* Non-Driver Photo-ID Card
* Passport

*and*

one of anything else.  Of course, the problem is that these three
require the BC...

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF


Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public
plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to
the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always
be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by
predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty.

Joseph Pulitzer
1907 Speech



The Nazification Of America, Part 2 (Day 5)

2005-07-06 Thread J.A. Terranson

When last I wrote, I was facing a dilemma: how to get a copy of my brith
certificate so that I could get a copy of my birth certificate :-/

I managed to clear the hurdle of the missing brith certificate.  Kinda.
Sorta maybe...

So, new certificate in hand, I went off to the DMV to get my picture taken
(wearing my Frisk Me, I'm A Terrorist T-Shirt of course).  At 8:50am I
was eagerly awaiting the opening of the local DMV office, and by the
opening bell at 9:00, there was actually a *line* behind me!

I rushed to the counter, plopped down my proof of insurance, proof of
address (a recent mailed in voter reg card), my old Illinois drivers
license, social security card, and held my breath.

They took them, and handed me back a form to check that everything was
correct prior to snapping the pic.  Oddly, it wasn't: the date of birth
was wrong, and it took them about 15 minutes to fix it (apparently the
computers are programmed to avoid the changing of a DOB, and they were
dumbfounded at how to proceed).  Finally, the moment arrived, and I was
the proud owner of not just a new Missouri driver's license (with clearly
shoing T-Shirt on the photo), but a Missouri state ID as well.

Then it was my wife's turn.  Unfortunately, she was turned away: even
though she had everything I did, she forgot to bring a certified copy of
our marriage license!  Without it, they refused to use her married name
for the license...  I trudged over to the city for a copy of said marriage
license, and lo, of course, there was aline out the door - women of every
age and description suddenly finding it necessary to get a certified copy
of their marriage license!  What a shocker - the Collector of Revenue is
having a field day with this.

She will try again tomorrow, and I certain that this time it will all
work out, but still, I am left with disturbing questions.  For instance,
when we went to get *her* birth certificate, why did they not give a damn
*who* was asking for it?  Why is everyone on earth getting to charge an
extra $12.00 here and $12.00 there to allow us the privelege of complying
with this absurd law (which, BTW, even the fucking British refuse to
pass)?  This country is out of control, bouncing endlessly between
administrative fiat and endless taxation, and all we can worry about is
that some ephemeral Terrorist is going to blow up a bus?  To be honest,
I'm *far* more worried that George will blow up another country that I am
about some guy stealing my ID and using it to defeat democracy in
Quebec

--
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF


Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public
plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to
the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always
be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by
predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty.

Joseph Pulitzer
1907 Speech



Re: Posion Pill for ED?

2005-07-06 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Tyler Durden wrote:

 Hey...can some clever Cypherpunk think of a nice poison pill for ED?

Assuming that high speed lead poisoning is not what you had in mind, the
only sure-fire (groan?) thing i can think of would be to deed the property
to a congresscritter, transferrable 10 years after your death.

100% Guarantee there will be NO development on that land for 10 years!

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF


Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public
plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to
the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always
be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by
predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty.

Joseph Pulitzer
1907 Speech



Re: Re:The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-06 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 15:51 -0400, Duncan Frissell wrote:
 http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/Sku.asp?PageType=1Sku=AVE02900

Since I can't get anything but an error page saying my browser is not
accepting cookies, even after actually accepting cookies, what is this
in plain English?

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]