Cypherpunks Europe
Greetings, I've been reading the list for a while now, and what I find annoying is that there are mostly American news and little about what's happening in Europe. As little as I respect America, America is not all of the world. Come on Cypherpunks from Europe, make your presence noticed! Jan Dobrucki Wladca Pierscieni. Plyty, kasety, ksiazki do wziecia http://wladcapierscieni.interia.pl/index.html?s=4
Re: Cypherpunks Europe
On Sunday, April 28, 2002, at 07:32 AM, Jan Dobrucki wrote: Greetings, I've been reading the list for a while now, and what I find annoying is that there are mostly American news and little about what's happening in Europe. As little as I respect America, America is not all of the world. Come on Cypherpunks from Europe, make your presence noticed! As you note in your last sentence, the lack of discussion of European (*), or Asian, or African news is for Europeans or Asians or Africans to fix. (* As for Europe, we have a fair amount of news from the U.K. Not all consider it part of Europe, though.) In past years there were several people from Germany, Holland, Sweden, etc. on the list. Someone from France (Damien G.) even discovered a major security bug. So, Europe has been well-represented. (Not much now, but, then, the volume of CP postings is way down...the substantive ones, at least.) Oh, and I think there's a guy from Australia still posting on this list. The most obvious reasons there are vastly more articles dealing with U.S.-centered developments are: 1. This is where the vast majority of the subscribers are living. Why more people in Europe are not interested in these issues is something one should ask Europeans about. 2. Physical meetings in the Bay Area are still happening, drawing between 20 and 40 persons per meeting. Some fraction of them are regular posters here. 3. The U.S., like it or not, remains the center of much that is technological, with all of the major PC and computer companies, most of the major software companies, and so on. You are of course welcome to write articles. This is the best fix for How come there are more articles on X? complaints. By the way, local news is not the real purpose of the list, in my opinion. Getting news is best done via browsers and the many hundreds of news outlets. --Tim May The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of. -- Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789
Re: Cypherpunks Europe
On Sunday, April 28, 2002, at 07:32 AM, Jan Dobrucki wrote: Greetings, I've been reading the list for a while now, and what I find annoying is that there are mostly American news and little about what's happening in Europe. As little as I respect America, America is not all of the world. Come on Cypherpunks from Europe, make your presence noticed! Not sure about the rest of europe - but we have a targetted crypto list in the UK (UKCrypto, sensibly enough) so already have a forum for uk-specific issues. Thats not to say some of it wouldn't be better here - but I am sure our problems with Godfrey would bore you all to tears anyhow :)
Got carried away...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Greetings. I got carried away a bit. Sorry. I'm on this list from around 1998 and I never had so much trash in my mail before. There is far too many ads, and what more, 5-6 viruses each day. So I blew my head off bout the USA. I'm a student of law, not computer science, so I don't write code worth even mentioning. I did some computer science, but that's not worth mentioning either. I know cyperpunks write code, therefore, sorry, I don't. I'd have to start from scrach. All of it. Not just the language, but theory, math, etc... by the time I'd be any good I'd be an old man with a long white beard and all that I would have learnt would most likely be absolete. I really am surprised at the feed back from the list. Never thought that anyone would write back. Maybe if I had something really, really interesting, then maybe, but that rare... I do have an idea thou. I'm thinking how to implement PGP into car locks. And so far I got this: The driver has his PGP, and the door has it's own. The door has only one reciepient, the driver. And when he wants to enter the car, its sends a certain number to the driver say 1234, or something else like letters and whatever. Only the driver can decrypt the message and see the contents. Each time the drivers wants to open the door its something else. Next the driver inputs the text sent by the door into a touchpad on the door. The door opens and the drivers can enter... so is it a good idea or a bad idea? Jan Dobrucki -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 2.6.3ia Charset: cp850 Comment: information is ammunition iQEVAwUBPMyPhw/jCFZJN2XlAQEUswgAomGcr/nr7g0W3oWNEnLOeCSF+jl8zo0i cCwS3BJH+hX4D5xC0yPAPHhWtnR+DLFnQr752+Vz0qUDIKC6sHvNu3AyiqQSckv+ Pghtiq6APvJ/aHwtVWD1rodfWz0F6HAT3x0f8POy8TT25SHvzVC2JJ8HkByTxfId Xdy0urnq/M1crayh2zAHbVLOwWpcp7rL9qR4RnbUP8jFh1SbqA31yyftDqG1Xdxf G5SqWfCH+NKrhZDeqbc66cM051UM55kzP0tT4Wyb3FSRQQGtHYbApwWGMp1aWCsW 5iZ+NEWpCzhesX0HcifPKKxLxqUe107I3jjBM8US3dONH0GtJuXtAg== =GlXa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Wladca Pierscieni. Plyty, kasety, ksiazki do wziecia http://wladcapierscieni.interia.pl/index.html?s=4
news is irrelevant -- write code not laws (Re: Cypherpunks Europe)
I guess there are a fair number of people from Europe on the list. I think there are a number of UK readers, plus others Tim mentioned. (I'm from the UK, but living in Canada right now). There is a UK crypto list, but it's full of news and legal stuff so relatively uninteresting. But the reason at least from my side that I don't post news is I eschew news of the banal kind such as our resident idiot Jim Choate streams dozens of on a daily basis (I kill-filed him, plus the moderator of the moderated version squashes most obviously idiotic output). I intentionally watch almost no TV, including TV news, or other traditional news. There are perhaps 20-30 news items worthy of comment per year and discussion usually happens here so using traditional media news won't achieve anything apart from wasting your time consuming typically heavily biased, technically confused journalists produce cute sound bites and generally mindlessly regurgitating the party line. I find these days I have such negative views of the bias in the traditional news that it makes me cringe and turn it off. (Irrelevant detour, but every time shrub (aka small Bush -- US president) is broadcast his inarticulate stuttering and inane grin, just causes me to hit the off-switch, the guy seems like a complete moron -- Blair is smug, also with his cheshire cat grin, but at least he is somewhat articulate and can come across intelligently -- shrub is a PR disaster.) So the interesting technical challenges from a cypherpunks write code point of view are already abundabtly clear without more news. You can pretty much rely on the maxim that politicians and the media will achieve the worst legal system for personal liberties in cyberspace, so our job is to build cypherspace where their ill-thought out laws particularly on speech, content, copyright etc largely don't apply. So I'd sooner for example spend time discussing how to design censor resistance, publisher and reader anonymity into a large scale file-sharing or next gen distributed web publishing replacement than for example the on-going burble along the lines gee look what stupid laws the politicians and media are thinking of introducing now. We already know they continue to make stupid laws, our task is to use technology to make their stupid laws as irrelevant as possible. Combing over the details of the political systems stupidity never seemed like a constructive use of time to me. Yes, there are 'Net lobbying groups, but I'm not sure they ultimately achieve anything apart from at best burning resources just acting as a stupidity-brake, and typically worse being sucked into the deals and favors for trade lobbying and bribing-fest. Adam On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 04:32:09PM +0200, Jan Dobrucki wrote: Greetings, I've been reading the list for a while now, and what I find annoying is that there are mostly American news and little about what's happening in Europe. As little as I respect America, America is not all of the world. Come on Cypherpunks from Europe, make your presence noticed! Jan Dobrucki
Re: Transparent disk encryption coming this year [was:RE: disk encryption modes]
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 11:11:23AM -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: The HowTo doesn't say whether or not their crypto filesystem supports swap, though obviously since you have to input a password to mount the filesystem, you'd need to have some kind of user interface running before mounting the swap, which may be a problem. It'd be interesting to try hacking around this, since swap doesn't need a password from a user - it just needs a random password to use consistently for an entire session, and if it's lost between reboots, that just means you need to make a new swap filesystem on the partition each time. You should check the linux-crypto archives on encrypting swap, it's been discussed a lot, and a number of people have it working well. http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-crypto/ -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
RE: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)
-- On 28 Apr 2002 at 16:20, Morlock Elloi wrote: How exactly does the introduction of IPV6 on a machine that is NAT-ted by the ISP who doesn't give shit about IPV6 help the situation ? To connect to the IPV6 world from inside a NAT network, you need a machine that is both inside and outside the NAT network, a gateway machine that has an IP4 an external address, even if only a dynamic address. Then all machines on the inside can talk to the outside through that machine, thus they can all receive quasi static IP6 addresses, even though not even the gateway machine possesses a static IP4 address. The question then is when will ISP's feel pressure to provide such a a gateway? --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG u6gm2uaf41VUVwgcdHrLWjfpoumqf3gh0alLqCQA 4twho9x1bOXnA+ZB85c2gi3TMua3r+rWLXHEnVNgy
