Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

2002-05-23 Thread D.Popkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Lucky Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PGP, GPG, and all its variants need to die before S/MIME will be able to break into the Open Source community, thus removing the last, but persistent, block to an instant increase in number of potential users of secure

Re: Testing..

2002-05-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Steve Furlong wrote: No problem --- I was just waxing my bikini line. (This disgusting mental image courtesy of the Janet Reno Full Frontal Nudity Collection.) (That disgusting mental image courtesy of me.) That depends on the gender preference of the reader I think -

Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

2002-05-23 Thread Bill Stewart
At 12:43 AM 05/22/2002 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 11:49 PM -0400 on 5/21/02, Luis Villa wrote, on FoRK: Well, yes, but you seem to be implying some sinister motive that not all of us are reading between the lines clearly enough to see :) I mean, otherwise, this just seems like a fairly

RE: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

2002-05-23 Thread Lucky Green
Adam wrote: Which is too bad. If NAI-PGP went away completely, then compatability problems would be reduced. I also expect that the German goverment group currently funding GPG would be more willing to fund UI work for windows. Tell me about it. PGP, GPG, and all its variants need to

Testing..

2002-05-23 Thread Bill O'Hanlon
Sorry for the intrusion.

Analysis of Neural Cryptography

2002-05-23 Thread John Young
Analysis of Neural Cryptography Alexander Klimov, Anton Mityaguine, and Adi Shamir Computer Science Department The Weizmann Institute, Rehovot 76100, Israel {ask,mityagin,shamir}@wisdom.weizmann.ac.il Abstract. In this paper we analyse the security of a new key exchange protocol proposed in

Re: Testing..

2002-05-23 Thread Steve Furlong
Bill O'Hanlon wrote: Sorry for the intrusion. No problem --- I was just waxing my bikini line. (This disgusting mental image courtesy of the Janet Reno Full Frontal Nudity Collection.) (That disgusting mental image courtesy of me.) -- Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere Have GNU, Will

Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

2002-05-23 Thread Adam Shostack
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 12:24:00AM -0700, Lucky Green wrote: | Adam wrote: | Which is too bad. If NAI-PGP went away completely, then | compatability problems would be reduced. I also expect that | the German goverment group currently funding GPG would be | more willing to fund UI work

Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick

2002-05-23 Thread Marshall Clow
At 10:34 AM -0400 5/23/02, Adam Shostack wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 12:24:00AM -0700, Lucky Green wrote: | Adam wrote: | Which is too bad. If NAI-PGP went away completely, then | compatability problems would be reduced. I also expect that | the German goverment group currently funding

Open-Source Fight Flares At Pentagon Microsoft Lobbies Hard Against Free Software

2002-05-23 Thread Steve Schear
Open-Source Fight Flares At Pentagon Microsoft Lobbies Hard Against Free Software http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html By Jonathan Krim Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, May 23, 2002; Page E01 Microsoft Corp. is aggressively lobbying the Pentagon to squelch

RE: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME (Re: NAI pulls out the DM CA stick)

2002-05-23 Thread Trei, Peter
Adam Back[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 03:05:49PM -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: So what if we create the Cypherpunks Root CA, which (either) signs what you submit to it via a web page, or publish the secret key? [...] We then get the Cypherpunks Root CA key

RE: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME

2002-05-23 Thread Curt Smith
Self-signed and CA x.509 certificates cannot be used in Outlook even when they are added to the Trusted Root CA's. Apparently Outlook is able to distinguish between these and CA-issued x.509 certificates. --- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't speak for mail-only clients, but it's

Future of commercial PGP? [was NAI gets out the DMCA stick]

2002-05-23 Thread stoat2k
As mentioned by others, NAI currently seems bent on discouraging proliferation of existing PGP desktop packages. Part of this seeming strategy includes a refusal to sell any further licenses for commercial PGP 7.X. Strangely, the June 2002 PC Magazine (at least where I live) includes a CDROM

Re: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME (Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick)

2002-05-23 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Adam Back wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 03:05:49PM -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: So what if we create the Cypherpunks Root CA, which (either) signs what you submit to it via a web page, or publish the secret key? This won't achieve the desired effect because it will

Re: Joe Sixpack doesn't run Linux

2002-05-23 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Curt Smith wrote: This is a fairly accurate description of the situation, but neglects to emphasize that the reason [1-cypherpunk] bothers convincing [2-coerced associate] to use encrypted e-mail is because [1] understands its importance and is attempting to