Re: privacy digital rights management

2002-06-29 Thread Morlock Elloi
Of course, nothing can stop Amazon from entering your credit card data and/or address into another program. They need to see this data in order to perform their normal business functions, and anyone can read it off the screen and type it into another computer. But the point is, they can't

Re: Brin

2002-06-29 Thread Bill Stewart
Bob - I'm not sure if you copied David separately/Bcc on your reply, and I've dropped Cc:s to some of your lists that I'm not on, and I missed your original message that David flamed you for which you're flaming back about, but Perhaps I've missed some really critical things the time or two

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-29 Thread bear
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Anonymous wrote: The important thing to note is this: you are no worse off than today! You are already in the second state today: you run untrusted, and none of the content companies will let you download their data. But boolegs are widely available. The problem is that

Re: Diffie-Hellman and MITM

2002-06-29 Thread gfgs pedo
hi, If there is no previous shared secret,then ur communication on an insecure network is susecptable to the man in the middle attack. One solution suggested against the man in the middle attack is using the interlock protocol InterLock Protocol Is used to foil a man in the middle

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-29 Thread Ross Anderson
Yes, this is a debate I've had with the medical privacy7 guys, some of whom like the idea of using Palladium to protect medical records. This is a subject on which I've a lot of experience (see my web page), and I don't think that Palladium will help. Privacy abuses almost always involve abuse

Re: Rendering Unto Ceasar

2002-06-29 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 11:13 AM -0400 on 6/29/02, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Ceasar Romero, Oops. Conflation between Ceasar Romero, Aldo Rey, and the character Aldo in the *third* and *fourth* Planet of the Apes sequellae, played, in the fourth movie's speaking role, by Claude Akins. IMDB is your friend. ;-).

Cluelessness is Wrong

2002-06-29 Thread Eric Cordian
Anonymous writes This shouldn't have to be said, but apparently it is necessary. And even if it isn't, you're going to say it anyway, aren't you? Piracy - unauthorized copying of copyrighted material - is wrong. It inherently involves lying, cheating and taking unfair advantage of others.

Piracy is wrong

2002-06-29 Thread Anonymous
This shouldn't have to be said, but apparently it is necessary. Piracy - unauthorized copying of copyrighted material - is wrong. It inherently involves lying, cheating and taking unfair advantage of others. Systems like DRM are therefore beneficial when they help to reduce piracy. We should

Re: mount filesystem and run a program when hotplugged

2002-06-29 Thread Pawe Krawczyk
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:29:17PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: I've bought me a little (32 MBytes) hotpluggable USB flash stick (a TrekStor). It mounts fine, but what I'd like to do is to automount it, and fire up a program (I intend to put my keyring on it) if hotplugged. You need to enable

Re: Piracy is wrong

2002-06-29 Thread Thomas Tydal
[From: Anonymous] If you take the song without paying for it, you are again receiving this gift without following the conditions that were placed on it as part of the gift being offered. You are taking advantage of the artist's creativity without them receiving the compensation they

Re:

2002-06-29 Thread Bill Stewart
At 03:31 AM 06/29/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bill, for passing on your message, along with the news that I've been dissed and discussed by R.A. Hettinga. Naturally, he never informed me, nor copied me his missives, nor invited me to answer. This appears to be quite typical.

RE: Rendering Unto Ceasar

2002-06-29 Thread R. A. Hettinga
...hypoxic, spittle-soaked screed elided... (I remember something my brother said to me once, in another context hereabouts, about being careful not to get into a pissing match with a sewer outfall. Oh, well. Hope it was as good for him as it was for me, and all that...) Plutocracy forever,

Re: [IRR] Brin Responds to Re: Brin

2002-06-29 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 1:49 PM -0400 on 6/29/02, Somebody wrote: I am delighted to see that David Brin is becoming even more loony with the passing of time, and even more delighted to find you quoting him. What else can one do with Brin, but quote him? More than anyone I have ever known, he debunks himself,

Re: Piracy is wrong

2002-06-29 Thread David Wagner
Anonymous wrote: Piracy - unauthorized copying of copyrighted material - is wrong. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html When an artist releases a song or some other creative product to the world, they typically put some conditions on it. Don't overlook the fact that when the

maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA)

2002-06-29 Thread Ryan Lackey
[summary: TCPA is a tool which even if not necessarily always used for DRM applications, and other far more evil applications, is dangerous enough that it must be killed to prevent the introduction of, and legal mandate for, these DRM and other more evil applications. People should be prepared

Re: Piracy is wrong

2002-06-29 Thread Jay Jay
-- Original Message -- From: Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:16:06 +0200 (CEST) When an artist releases a song or some other creative product to the world, they typically put some conditions on it. If you want to listen to and

Re: Piracy is wrong

2002-06-29 Thread Joseph Ashwood
Subject: CDR: Piracy is wrong This shouldn't have to be said, but apparently it is necessary. Which is a correct statement, but an incorrect line of thinking. Piracy is an illegitimate use of a designed in hole in the security, the ability to copy. This right to copy for personal use is well

RE: Rendering Unto Ceasar

2002-06-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R. A. Hettinga writes: At 3:31 AM -0700 on 6/29/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] paints a picture out of the second Planet of the Apes movie, Roddy McDowell, Ceasar Romero, and all...: Brin said: An AGGRESSIVE approach, barging into the citadels of power, ripping the blinds, opening the windows,

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-29 Thread bear
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Barney Wolff wrote: Do you really mean that if I'm a business, you can force me to deal with you even though you refuse to supply your real name? Not acceptable. I don't think that privacy (in the sense of having the right to keep private details of your life from being