domestic terrorism, fat lazy amerikans ducks
As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists. Foie Gras Flap Leads to Vandalism Sonoma Police Chief John Gurney, who described the attacks as a sophisticated campaign of domestic terrorism, said: They're trying to impose their beliefs on others through the use of force, fear and intimidation. Manrique said the vandals had left behind a videotape of his family inside the house that had been shot through a window. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-foiegras25aug25,1,2739877.story?coll=la-home-todays-times The radical group Earth Liberation Front issued an unsigned e-mail Friday calling the incidents ELF actions,'' and the FBI was investigating the dealership fire as domestic terrorism, Police Chief Frank Wills said. http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2003/08/23/newsnationworld_top/hjjgjbhgjbhgjj.txt
RE: domestic terrorism, fat lazy amerikans ducks
As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists. Not new; some have been labeled terrorists for a long time, with good reason. But don't confuse activists with terrorists. Handing out leaflets is activism. Planting firebombs in restaurants is terrorism. http://www.activistcash.com has some introductory material on how PETA is connected with ALF, ELF, etc. Patrick
Re: domestic terrorism, fat lazy amerikans ducks
So what are the bets as to how soon they'll start calling democrats terrorists? :) --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ --*--:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD.\|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Major Variola (ret.) wrote: As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists.
Schneier at toorcon 2003
I'm told by an organizer that Bruce Schneier will be speaking at toorcon in San Diego this year. See www.toorcon.org for info.
RE: domestic terrorism, fat lazy amerikans ducks
At 11:40 AM 8/25/03 -0600, Patrick wrote: But don't confuse activists with terrorists. Handing out leaflets is activism. Planting firebombs in restaurants is terrorism. Sabotage needn't induce terror, and leaflets can induce terror. Hell, art projects can induce terror, and sabotage can be unnoticed. Additional case studies are needed, however, to determine which traits of chemical and biological terrorists might help identify them because charisma, paranoia, and grandiosity are alo found to varying degreees among, for example, leaders of political parties, large corporations, and academic depts. --John T Finn, _Science_ v 289 1 sept 2000
Re: Schneier at toorcon 2003
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: I'm told by an organizer that Bruce Schneier will be speaking at toorcon in San Diego this year. See www.toorcon.org for info. This is of interest why?
Re: domestic terrorism, fat lazy amerikans ducks
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Major Variola (ret.) wrote: As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists. Foie Gras Flap Leads to Vandalism Sonoma Police Chief John Gurney, who described the attacks as a sophisticated campaign of domestic terrorism, said: They're trying to impose their beliefs on others through the use of force, fear and intimidation. Ask him why he carries a gun. While I don't agree with their methods in all cases it seems to me that they're not telling people what to do, but rather telling others to stop doing it to them. The reality is that the domestic activist movement has only made progress when resorting to violence and destruction. Look at the womens rights movement, 60's civil rights movement, conservation movements in the 60's and 70's. Anything less and the powers that be choose over anything else. It's the nature of the beast who goes for these sorts of positions of 'authority'. A perfect example of why greed is -not- good and 'power' should never be placed in one 'authority'. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com www.open-forge.com
Re: domestic terrorism, fat lazy amerikans ducks
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:40:20AM -0600, Patrick wrote: As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists. Not new; some have been labeled terrorists for a long time, with good reason. Good reason? EarthFirsters are called terrorists when they treesit or blockade roads. How about releasing furfarm mink, do you consider that terrorism as well? AFAIK, neither ELF or ALF has every harmed a human, so calling them terrorists is just statist agitprop. But don't confuse activists with terrorists. Handing out leaflets is activism. Planting firebombs in restaurants is terrorism. http://www.activistcash.com has some introductory material on how PETA is connected with ALF, ELF, etc. Patrick -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
