Re: Lucrative update mail flood

2003-11-26 Thread Eric Murray
Sorry about the mail storm. Someone at monash.edu.au has apparently set up a mail loop that was resubmitting cpunks mails. Eric

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread Neil Johnson
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 01:21 pm, Trei, Peter wrote: [snip] All I want is a system which is not more easily screwed around with then paper ballots. Have some imagination - you could, for example, set things up so the voter, and only the voter, can see the screen and/or paper receipt while

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread BillyGOTO
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 03:26:18PM -0800, Tim May wrote: (I fully support vote buying and selling, needless to say. Simple right to make a contract.) What's your take on this situation, then: BOSS: Get in that booth and vote Kennedy or I'll fire you. Take this expensive camera with

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread Tim May
On Nov 25, 2003, at 11:21 AM, Trei, Peter wrote: Tim May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 25, 2003, at 9:56 AM, Sunder wrote: Um, last I checked, phone cameras have really shitty resolution, usually less than 320x200. Even so, you'd need MUCH higher resolution, say 3-5Mpixels to be able

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread Tim May
On Nov 26, 2003, at 8:10 AM, BillyGOTO wrote: I have no problem with this free choice contract. You can't sell your vote for the same reason that Djinni don't grant wishes for more wishes. A silly comment. I take it you're saying Because the rules don't allow it. Or something similar to this.

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread Miles Fidelman
All I want is a system which is not more easily screwed around with then paper ballots. I think it's called OCR. Paper ballots, marked by the voter, not by software, then counted by software: - the ballot and the audit document are one and the same - no opportunity for software to mess with

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread Dave Howe
Miles Fidelman wrote: - option for a quick and dirty recount by feeding the ballots through a different counting machine (maybe with different software, from a different vendor) or indeed constructing said machines so they *assume* they will be feeding another machine in a chain (so every party

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread Miles Fidelman
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Dave Howe wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: - option for a quick and dirty recount by feeding the ballots through a different counting machine (maybe with different software, from a different vendor) or indeed constructing said machines so they *assume* they will be

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread BillyGOTO
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 09:18:42AM -0800, Tim May wrote: On Nov 26, 2003, at 8:10 AM, BillyGOTO wrote: I have no problem with this free choice contract. You can't sell your vote for the same reason that Djinni don't grant wishes for more wishes. A silly comment. I take it you're saying

RE: C3 Nehemia C5P with better hardware RNG and AES support

2003-11-26 Thread coderman
.. delayed response From: Peter Gutmann Lucky Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... I fail to understand why VIA bothered adding AES support into the CPU. When was AES last the bottleneck on a general-purpose CPU? Apart from the obvious what cool thing can we fit in - - this much spare die

RE: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread Trei, Peter
Miles Fidelman wrote: Peter Trei wrote: All I want is a system which is not more easily screwed around with then paper ballots. I think it's called OCR Actually, I think its called 'Optical Mark Sense'. Paper ballots, marked by the voter, not by software, then counted by software: - the

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread Nomen Nescio
Cameras in the voting booth? Jesus Christ, you guys are morons. If you want to sell your vote, just vote absentee. The ward guy will even stamp and mail it for you. Happens every election.

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

2003-11-26 Thread Tyler Durden
Doesn't make sense. Votes are already bought and sold, but there's so many middle men taking their cuts in the form of military bases or whatnot that the enduser barely gets some. -TD From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying,