Re: Release Saddam now

2003-12-20 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 19 Dec 2003 at 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is no one with legitimate jurisdiction to try Saddam, then he should be released. You are making De Sade's argument against natural law, to which his prosecutors rightly made the riposte, that if no one had the right to

Re: Release Saddam now

2003-12-20 Thread proclus
On 19 Dec, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 19 Dec 2003 at 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is no one with legitimate jurisdiction to try Saddam, then he should be released. You are making De Sade's argument against natural law, to which his prosecutors rightly made the riposte,

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-20 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 19 Dec 2003 at 19:50, Nomen Nescio wrote: I don't think I've ever heard that the Nazi prisoners where drugged, abused or otherwice tortured or mistreated and humiliated. Feel free to enlighten me on this. if you count a haircut as abuse, torture, and mistreatment, I expect that they

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2003-12-20 Thread Anonymous
Re saddam et all... http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EL19Ak01.html The war of words over Saddam Bush is quite amusing. The blind faith in ones govt structure and the willingness to support force that is in such extreme measure overpowering and statist such as the dropping of tons of

Re: the Kuwait issue is not associated with America

2003-12-20 Thread James A. Donald
On 20 Dec 2003 at 12:40, Nomen Nescio wrote: Thanks Steve, I don't think I have heard this before. I googled on the text you quoted and found this url http://wais.stanford.edu/Iraq/iraq_andambassaprilglaspie22303.html and a few more

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Re: the Kuwait issue is not associated with America

2003-12-20 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20-Dec-03, at 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what your motivation is for wanting to rewrite history, but that isn't what Glaspie said. I am guessing here that he just wants to believe that the US is acting in their foreign

Re: the Kuwait issue is not associated with America

2003-12-20 Thread Freematt357
I'm not sure what your motivation is for wanting to rewrite history, but that isn't what Glaspie said. There's a video interview I saw about all of this on 60 minutes (I think) where it was made clear that Glaspie did in fact say to Saddam that "We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts,

the Kuwait issue is not associated with America

2003-12-20 Thread Nomen Nescio
Thanks Steve, I don't think I have heard this before. I googled on the text you quoted and found this url http://wais.stanford.edu/Iraq/iraq_andambassaprilglaspie22303.html and a few more http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/april.html

RE: The killer app for encryption

2003-12-20 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:18 PM 12/19/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: [on onion routing POTS] trace that call, or payment for that matter. So if bin Laden were feelin' lonely one day and signed onto the network, you could give him a call, without him worrying about the missles falling within a few minutes. -TD If

Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

2003-12-20 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 19 Dec 2003 at 21:21, Steve Schear wrote: I have direct instructions from the President to seek better relations with Iraq. [] Our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. But we have no opinion on Arab-Arab conflicts like your border disagreement

Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

2003-12-20 Thread Steve Schear
At 06:37 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote: In a message dated 12/19/2003 3:38:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Saddam was warned that if he took Kuwait, terrible consequences might well follow. That's bullshit. Saddam was told by our Chick ambassador (I can't remember her name)

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-20 Thread Eric Cordian
James A. Donald wrote: Well if there is no legitimate authority, then state of nature applies. Give him the justice that Mussolini and Ceasescu got. Hang him by his feet from a lamp post in central Baghdad for his victims to use as pinata Bear in mind that we could probably find plenty of

RE: The killer app for encryption

2003-12-20 Thread Tyler Durden
I'm not certain, but I think there are some MS certified modems which have a generalized A/D-D/A capability sufficient to handle voice. They do. And I'm not so sure POTS is going to be where things will be the most interesting...cable modem telephony might be where things get interesting. As

RE: The killer app for encryption

2003-12-20 Thread Bill Frantz
At 12:16 PM -0800 12/18/03, Jim Dixon wrote: Voice telephony requires delays measured in tens of milliseconds. A bit difficult if you also want encryption, anonymity, etc. Voice memo (messaging) systems are a way around this limitation. I don't know of any that exist. (Encrypted to

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

2003-12-20 Thread Bill Stewart
On 19 Dec 2003 at 11:00, Nomen Nescio wrote: Let's face it: not even the Nazi war criminals were treated in the way Saddam has been treated. So far he's avoided being treated like Mussolini. At 11:35 AM 12/19/2003 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: Oh no, he got a shave and a dental examination, the