Re: Windows source leaked?

2004-02-14 Thread Eric Murray
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 03:25:11PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: I wonder if frags of OSS code can be found in proprietary binaries. Of course. Here's an example of MS using BSD code: http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/6/19/05641/7357 and another:

Re: FCC vs decentralization

2004-02-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 12:34:01PM +1300, Peter Gutmann wrote: The RIAA/MPAA and US govt.are working on that. Stand by. I mentioned the trend, but the point is that's not there yet. There are other countries, which will take a lot of talking to and threat of economic sanctions, before it

Re: Windows source leaked?

2004-02-14 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:34 PM 2/13/04 -0500, Steve Furlong wrote: In principle they can prove that the secret didn't have any influence on the work, but in practice they're stuck having to prove a negative. I was hoping the courts would see the impossibility of proving a negative, and see true dissimilarities in

Re: Call to the Usual Suspects

2004-02-14 Thread John Young
Follow the invisible man's rainbow socks in sandals. The real emitter not the no-knock-knocks wearing Tempest protection and LEDs in horn-rims. Hear their beeps, scatter, there's a nab acoming. Once I almost met a cpunk, then it vanished, lo, it was a cyberpunk oozing.

Re: Windows source leaked?

2004-02-14 Thread Eric Murray
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 11:45:34AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: (in reply to someone else) Lots has been said about OSS developers not wanting to look at this for fear that they will be tainted. While it is true that simply the act of looking at the code is unauthorized and illegal,

Re: Call to the Usual Suspects

2004-02-14 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 8:13 PM -0800 2/13/04, John Young wrote: Hear their beeps, scatter, there's a nab acoming. H's Baack... :-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA

Re: Windows source leaked?

2004-02-14 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:08 PM 2/13/04 -0800, Eric Murray wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 11:45:34AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: (in reply to someone else) Lots has been said about OSS developers not wanting to look at this for fear that they will be tainted. While it is true that simply the act of looking

Re: Windows source leaked?

2004-02-14 Thread Steve Furlong
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 19:02, Justin wrote: Case law on point? I don't think that is true at all. Trade secrets that are leaked are no longer trade secrets. Incorrect. Trade secrets that are deliberately released by the owner are no longer secret. Secrets that are carelessly released by the

Re: Windows source leaked?

2004-02-14 Thread Justin
Steve Furlong (2004-02-13 22:34Z) wrote: Eric is correct in his reply to MV's article. Joe Programmer isn't necessarily obligated not to look at leaked trade secrets, but if he implements anything remotely related to the leaked secret, he and his employers or customers are subject to being