Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote: 2. Was tim may being filtered from minder, or is he just gone now ? I talked to him a little bit after lne went down; he said he wasn't interested in posting to the list any more. Quite unfortunate, in my view. Apparently he's still to be found

Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread Riad S. Wahby
J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunate? I don't know. Tim's gone a little whacko over the last few years, and it doesn't look like his meds are doing crap for him: [snip] It's true, Tim does seem to harbor an awful lot of anger towards certain groups, but while I don't agree

current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread Joe Schmoe
I wasn't paying attention when the lne node went away, and was a bit lost in my CP mailing list subscription for a few months... I subscribed to minder, but it was a _joke_ in terms of spam and bounces and all sorts of lameness in my cypherpunks folder _and_ my inbox. Further, I noticed I was no

Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Joe Schmoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. any comments on this level of spam and bounces, etc., I saw from minder - does al-qeada use a more LNE-like processor ? Well, as the list maintainer I see a lot of bounces c, but (unless something is seriously wrong with my setup) no one else does. 2.

Re: Lazy network operators (fwd)

2004-04-11 Thread J.A. Terranson
The source is almost as interesting as the quote. -- Forwarded message -- Date: 11 Apr 2004 03:41:48 + From: Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lazy network operators [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sean Donelan) writes: Should anonymous use of the

Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies - the internet is a tree.

2004-04-11 Thread Bill Stewart
It's a tree No, it's not a tree I thought we were sort of an autonomous collective! Watery marketers lobbing Powerpoints is no basis for a form of architecture Network engineers spend a lot of time making sure that their networks, and the Internet, are not trees. Multiple peering and

Re: Spy agency launches recruiting campaign

2004-04-11 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:52 PM 4/10/2004, R. A. Hettinga wrote: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/8403065.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp Posted on Sat, Apr. 10, 2004 Spy agency launches recruiting campaign Associated Press WASHINGTON - The highly secretive National Security Agency is

Re: legally required forgetting

2004-04-11 Thread petard
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 10:33:39AM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Thanks for the distinction, however it still makes CC folks slaves of the State. Suppose Joe Badcredit finds a blank application and applies? The State then uses violence to coerce the CC into non-consensual transactions.

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Justin
Major Variola (ret) (2004-04-11 16:42Z) wrote: Blacknet is a robust archive for words, immune to force (by State or private actors), but merely words. With all due respect to the principle of freedom of speech and all that, I think that cypherpunks, and people in general, give far too little

Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread Tyler Durden
Tim regularly and thoroughly jumped up my ass about my various ideological impurities Well, this was fairly annoying and I think made it harder to dig out the gold from Tim May's poop. And in a way, this was self-defeating from a topple-the-state point of view. My point was (and sometimes is)

Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote: The part I find unfortunate is that, along with his less tactful points, gone are his insightful ones. This is the point I was trying to make (by reposting his latest insight). We all have those ghosts we'd like to see dead. Hell, I've got more than

Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 3:37 AM -0400 4/11/04, Riad S. Wahby wrote: Apparently he's still to be found posting on various Usenet groups. RAH knows more about this than I do. Obviously, Tim was on usenet long before he, Eric Hughes and John Gilmore started this list on

Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies

2004-04-11 Thread sunder
Jim Dixon wrote: The term is used because most or all trees in the region where the English language originated are shaped just like that: they have a single trunk which forks into branches which may themselves fork and so on. These branches do not connect back to one another. I believe the real

BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship

2004-04-11 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3611227.stm File-sharing to bypass censorship By Tracey Logan BBC Go Digital presenter The net could be humming with news, rather pop, swappers By the year 2010, file-sharers could be swapping news rather than music, eliminating censorship of any kind.

Spy agency launches recruiting campaign

2004-04-11 Thread R. A. Hettinga
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/8403065.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp Posted on Sat, Apr. 10, 2004 Spy agency launches recruiting campaign Associated Press WASHINGTON - The highly secretive National Security Agency is looking to hire 7,500 workers over the next five

Re: VPN VoIP

2004-04-11 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Saturday 2004 April 10 12:12, Eugen Leitl wrote: Should I stick with Linux (there's /dev/random and VPN support in current kernels for the C3 Padlock engine, right?) with SELinux or try OpenBSD for a firewall type machine with hardware crypto support? For a firewall, I'd recommend OpenBSD

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Eric Cordian
Justin writes: With all due respect to the principle of freedom of speech and all that, I think that cypherpunks, and people in general, give far too little respect to words, as if words are a vague, unimportant, and remote link in the chain of causation of acts or failure-to-acts. I don't

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Tyler Durden
Eric Cordian wrote... Can I be the list's new Crusty Retired Engineer now? Why, did you retire recently? -TD From: Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: On Needing Killing Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Justin writes: With all due respect to the

Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship

2004-04-11 Thread Eric Cordian
Eugen Leitl pastes: File-sharing to bypass censorship By Tracey Logan BBC Go Digital presenter If there's material that everyone agrees is wicked, like child pornography, then it's possible to track it down and close it down Ross Anderson, Cambridge University I think the problem here

Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship

2004-04-11 Thread Justin
Harmon Seaver (2004-04-11 20:05Z) wrote: This is insane -- on what basis, under what Constitutional authority, does the state get to decide that the christer marriage vows are sacred and legal, and a pagan or indig taking to wife isn't? This is one nation under God (the Christian God), or

Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship

2004-04-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 12:41:03PM -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: As those who flog the Sex Abuse Agenda are well aware, 90% of successful propaganda is owning the vocabulary. I am reminded of the changing of the term statutory rape to child rape a few years ago, which I am sure we will all

Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship

2004-04-11 Thread sunder
Justin wrote: This is one nation under God (the Christian God), or haven't you noticed? If the Christian Right thinks God doesn't like something, it's not Constitutionally protected. Even worse, I've once heard a coworker explain to me why Bush doesn't give a rats ass about the environment:

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 12:58 PM -0700 4/11/04, Eric Cordian wrote: So - what happened to Tim? Can I be the list's new Crusty Retired Engineer now? Crusty retired pervert is more like it. ..and, no, I don't want to know what the crust is made of... :-/ Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto:

Altered phone cards?

2004-04-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
Anybody heard of this before, or know how it's done? And Mr Tanaka has good reason to be wary. He and his three friends are illegally selling phone cards that have been altered so they can be re-used. http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/671844D1-95C9-4BEF-903C-155B2E948C59.htm -- Harmon