The Oppenheimer Riddle: New evidence of Communist membership debated by scholars of Berkeley scientist

2004-04-26 Thread R. A. Hettinga
Gee. I'm crushed. Alger Hiss *was* a Spy. The Rosenbergs *were* spies. Oppenheimer *was* a Communist. Gosh. Who'da thunk it? ;-) Cheers, RAH - http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/04/23/MNG5I69UIJ1.DTLtype=printable THE OPPENHEIMER RIDDLE New

Re: Is there a Brands certificate reference implementation?

2004-04-26 Thread An Metet
Steve Furlong writes: Does anyone know of a reference implementation for Stefan Brands's digital certificate scheme? Alternatively, does anyone have an email address for Brands so I can ask him myself? (I haven't gotten anything back from ZKS's contact us address. But I don't know if Brands is

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread sunder
Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I Invented the Innnernet Gore, and

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread Jack Lloyd
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:52AM -0400, sunder wrote: Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: 'I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin, he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 11:31]: : What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al I : Invented the Innnernet Gore, and George Nucular Dubbya? Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread sunder
Damian Gerow wrote: Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread sunder
Damian Gerow wrote: Hey, I'm no fan of Tipper either. And I'm not saying that Al Gore was a /good/ choice. But in retrospect, he probably would have been a lesser evil than the current president. THAT, ultimately is the meta-point. You shouldn't have to vote for the lesser evil, but when your

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread Tyler Durden
Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're *all* going up the chimneys. Wasn't there something close a few years ago? I remember a write-in campaign to get Unabomber Ted Kascinsky elected as President. -TD From: Jack Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sunder [EMAIL

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 13:38]: : Hey, I'm no fan of Tipper either. And I'm not saying that Al Gore was a : /good/ choice. But in retrospect, he probably would have been a lesser : evil : than the current president. : : THAT, ultimately is the meta-point. You shouldn't

Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 13:10]: : Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through : various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to : represent what he said through that phrase. : : What he /actually/ claimed (and what he

Re: What Should Freedom Lovers Do?

2004-04-26 Thread sunder
An Metet wrote: In my devotion to freedom, I apparently go beyond the point where most cypherpunks are comfortable, in that I support private initiatives and technologies of all sorts and oppose government regulation of them. I am a supporter and admirer of Microsoft, which has achieved tremendous

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Pete Capelli
Damian Gerow wrote: Who you vote for is up to you. I'm not telling you to vote for him, I'm just correcting a pretty large non-truth propogated by American media. B*llshit. From a transcript of an interview of Al Gore by Wolf Blitzer:

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Pete Capelli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 13:56]: : Who you vote for is up to you. I'm not telling you to vote for him, I'm : just correcting a pretty large non-truth propogated by American media. : : B*llshit. From a transcript of an interview of Al Gore by Wolf Blitzer: :

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread sunder
Damian Gerow wrote: I don't give a flying fuck who you vote for, who the options are, what you think of them, or even if they're convicted drunk drivers hell-bent on converting the world to their belief system (...). You, sir, are in great need of an enema. *PLONK*

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Pete Capelli
: B*llshit. From a transcript of an interview of Al Gore by Wolf Blitzer: : http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/ : : During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in : creating the Internet. Yes, that's exactly what he

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Pete Capelli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 16:01]: : Yes, that's exactly what he said: : : http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/ : : That's not saying that he invented the internet, it's saying that he took : initiative in creating it. Two very different things.

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread Steve Furlong
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 12:58, sunder wrote: Al's prise pig of a wife, Tipper, helped found the PMRC against lyrics in songs. And, like all statists, they went widely astray of their goals. Frank Zappa's _Jazz from Hell_ got a Tipper Sticker, indicating obscene lyrics. They didn't notice that

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 04:12:40PM -0400, Damian Gerow wrote: Agreed, every politician has their own problems. I /personally/ don't believe that Mr. Gore was trying to take credit for 'inventing' the Internet. His wording is incredibly vague, and I agree that it could be taken as him

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 19:25]: :And the local elections are no prime pickings either, it's crooks to the left : of us, crooks to the right of us, ahead and behind, above and below. Extremely : few real choices. The real problem is -- most people don't vote. What

Re: Mask secures personal displays

2004-04-26 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Yamamoto is also optimistic that this technique will find commercial applications. Display of secret information on PDA and computer screens are practical applications, he explained. Other business applications include: securing the screen of a terminal at a bank; an operator screen that