At 3:34 PM -0500 12/6/04, Steve Thompson wrote:
>I rather suspect that
>the people who 0wn the upstream pipe from my points of access are toying
>with their ability to interpose their data in place of quasi-authoritative
>texts.
Oh, *my*...
Where is Detweiller, now that we need him?
;-)
Cheers,
The Register has a really friendly article about Kerik,
Giuliani's buddy who's proposed for Homeland Security Czar.
(El Reg is primarily an online technology newswire,
but they do comment on other issues, especially if they
have technical aspects - they especially rag on the
UK's Home Secretary Blu
--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Bonus question:
> >
> >Who is the author of the origin question that inspired the copycats?
> Well, I remember May posting it but I don't think he was the ultimate
> author. I suspect whoever posted it recently in fact dug it out of the
> archives
Cryptome hosts a 2000 book excerpt on PROMIS as
allegedly used by Mossad, though not much about
the technical details of the program:
http://cryptome.org/promis-mossad.htm
The file has links to other information on Riconosciuto
offered by Orlin Grabbe, a long-time supporter of
Riconosciuto.
Bac
--- Steve Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Bonus question:
> > >
> > >Who is the author of the origin question that inspired the copycats?
>
> > Well, I remember May posting it but I don't think he was the ultimate
> > author. I suspect wh
--- Neil Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 20:58 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote:
> >[PROMIS]
> Yes, I have found that puzzling too.
>
> Articles I have read refer to the original version being "in the public
> domain". You'd think the source code would be "out there" somewh
Bonus question:
Who is the author of the origin question that inspired the copycats?
Well, I remember May posting it but I don't think he was the ultimate
author. I suspect whoever posted it recently in fact dug it out of the
archives and re-posted it, a particularly lame maneuver if so.
OR...pe
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
> At 9:57 PM -0600 12/5/04, Neil Johnson wrote:
> >is that with a
> >staggering 570,000 lines of computer code,
>
> Oh, please...
>
> Try googling the "line-count" of any major piece of software, particularly
> in an age of object-oriented code...
OOP is
At 9:57 PM -0600 12/5/04, Neil Johnson wrote:
>is that with a
>staggering 570,000 lines of computer code,
Oh, please...
Try googling the "line-count" of any major piece of software, particularly
in an age of object-oriented code...
Cheers,
RAH
--
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R. A. Hettinga
The Internet
One the claims I have problems with (from the WIRED article):
But the real power of PROMIS, according to Hamilton, is that with a
staggering 570,000 lines of computer code, PROMIS can integrate
innumerable databases without requiring any reprogramming.
If this were true, I can guarantee that ther
>From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Dec 4, 2004 8:33 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: "Word" Of the Subgenius...
>I thought JR "Bob" Dobbs got beamed up to that comet with those LA Koolaid
>kooks...
No, but I do believe the comet kooks engaged in bobbitization (or perhaps,
merely
Bill Stewart shrieb:
> There are several different issues related to PROMIS
Thanks for your comments.
But what about the person Michael Riconosciuto? I did some searches
online and I got the feeling that a lot people see him as an
extremely intelligent person, a one-in-a-million type of person,
--- Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I read a few old email messages I had and stumbled over some
> interesting material relating to NSA, CIA and one Michael
> Riconosciuto among other things.
> [PROMIS]
Does anyone here have a good idea of what the PROMIS code actuall does;
what its ch
John Kelsey wrote:
From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 4, 2004 8:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "Word" Of the Subgenius...
I thought JR "Bob" Dobbs got beamed up to that comet with those LA Koolaid
kooks...
No, but I do believe the comet kooks engaged in bobbitizati
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
> At 6:20 PM +0100 12/5/04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> >PROMIS
>
> Beat that horse, scraped it off the floor, sent it to the glue factory.
>
> Seven or Eight times. Musta had kin.
And all of them were related to a guy who had a habit of holding $7,000.00
ashtr
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Steve Thompson wrote:
> Does anyone here have a good idea of what the PROMIS code actuall does;
> what its characteristics and capabilities are in terms of its function as
> an aid to intellegence analysts, logistics technicians, or consultants?
We had a PROMIS system on our
At 6:20 PM +0100 12/5/04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>PROMIS
Beat that horse, scraped it off the floor, sent it to the glue factory.
Seven or Eight times. Musta had kin.
However, all you have to do is drop that acronym around here, and, sooner
or later, like buzzards to a shitwagon, all the usual suspe
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:06 AM
> To: R.W. (Bob) Erickson
> Cc: Steve Furlong; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...
>
>
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 08:46 -0500,
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Steve Thompson wrote:
> Does anyone here have a good idea of what the PROMIS code actuall does;
> what its characteristics and capabilities are in terms of its function as
> an aid to intellegence analysts, logistics technicians, or consultants?
At 07:16 PM 12/5/2004, J.A. Terr
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 20:58 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote:
> I've only read vague hints and rumours concerning its implicit design
> philosophy and architecture from the rare instances where it is mentioned
> at all. Yes, he code is probably classified (blah, blah, blah), but its
> actual use must r
--- Neil Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 08:46 -0500, R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote:
>
> > To be bobbed is never the goal,
> > but bobless fear steers the undifferentiated bob
> > along conventional paths,
> > to the abattoir
>
>
> Where is Tim May when when you need hi
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