date:20041213

At 02:29 PM 12/11/2004, James A. Donald wrote:
If Afghanistan was subject to US jurisdiction, it would not
have a bumper opium crop.  If Saudi Arabia was subject to US
jurisdiction, they would not be funding terrorism.  [...]
The reason that taliban caught in Afghanistan, and people with
the wrong accent caught in Afghanistan, tend to wind up in
Guantanamo Bay is not because Afghan warlords are taking orders
from US overlords, it is because Afghan warlords are fighting a
holy war against the same people who are our enemies.
But the Taliban were the US warlords' *friends*.
After all, that's why the US paid them $43m for doing
such a great job in their holy war against opium farmers.



Bill Stewart  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread Justin

On 2004-12-11T06:48:41-0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
 
 At 09:47 PM 12/10/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
 Now we're back to the MixMaster argument. Mixmaster was meant to be a
 Napster-level popular app for emailing, but people just don't care
 about anonymity.
 
 Mixmaster is the most godawful complex thing to use, much less
 administer, around.  Even Jack B Nymble is complex.  It needs a simple
 luser interface and something to piggyback servers on.

Not necessarily.  Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt.

1. Compile Mixmaster
2. Put the binary in some directory somewhere.
3. Configure Mutt with --with-mixmaster  (sadly not enabled by default)
4. add the line 'set mixmaster=/location/to/bin/mixmaster' to .muttrc
5. mkdir ~user/Mix/
6. Add a script to crontab that does:

  cd ~user/Mix/
  mv -f mlist.txt mlist.txt.old
  wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/mlist.txt
  mv -f rlist.txt rlist.txt.old
  wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/rlist.txt
  mv -f pubring.mix pubring.mix.old
  wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/pubring.mix
  mv -f type2.list type2.list.old
  wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/type2.list
  mv -f pubring.asc pubring.asc.old
  wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/pgp-all.asc
  mv -f pgp-all.asc pubring.asc

6.5.  And run it once for good measure.
7. When sending email, at the summary page just before sending, hit 'M'.

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Florian Weimer

* Adam Shostack:

 On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 10:24:09PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
 | * R. A. Hettinga quotes a news article:
 | 
 |   There have been numerous media reports in recent years that terrorist
 |  groups, including al-Qaida, were using steganographic techniques.
 | 
 | As far as I know, these news stories can be tracked back to a
 | particular USA Today story.  There's also been a bunch of stories how
 | a covert channel in TCP could be used by terrorists to hide their
 | communication.

 There's very good evidence that Al Qaida does *not* use strong crypto.

However, they use some form of crypto.  From a recent press release of
our attorney general:

| Als mitgliedschaftliche Betätigung im Sinne der Strafvorschrift des §
| 129b StGB für die Ansar al Islam wird den Beschuldigten vor allem
| zur Last gelegt, einen Mordanschlag auf den irakischen
| Ministerpräsidenten während seines Staatsbesuches in Deutschland am
| 2. und 3. Dezember 2004 geplant zu haben. Dies ergibt sich aus dem
| Inhalt einer Vielzahl zwischen den Beschuldigten seit dem 28. November
| 2004 verschlüsselt geführter Telefongespräche

http://www.generalbundesanwalt.de/news/index.php?Artikel=158Thema=5Start=0

(Very rough translation: The persons are accused of being members of
Ansar al Islam and planning the assassination of the Iraqi prime
minister during his visit to Germany on the 2nd and 3rd December,
2004.  This follows from the contents of a multitude of encrypted
telephone calls the accussed exchanged since November 28, 2004.)

Probably, they just used code words, and no real cryptography.  I'm
trying to obtain a confirmation, though.

To the Computer, You're Still Beautiful

2004-12-13 Thread R.A. Hettinga

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/12/weekinreview/12bigp.html?oref=loginpagewanted=printposition=

The New York Times

December 12, 2004

To the Computer, You're Still Beautiful
 By MATTHEW L. WALD


UNATTRACTIVE passport photos, once merely traditional, may become
mandatory. The reason is that computers do not like smiles.

A United Nations agency that sets standards for passports wants all
countries to switch to a document that includes a biometric feature, a
digital representation of the bearer's face recorded on an embedded
computer chip. In airports and at border crossings, a machine will read the
chip to see if the information there matches the bearer's face. But the
machine can be flummoxed by smiles, which introduce teeth, wrinkles, seams
and other distortions.

The State Department issued instructions that passport photos should be
neutral (non-smiling) with both eyes open, and mouth closed. In a grudging
sop to the irrepressible, a smile with closed jaw is allowed, but is not
preferred.

A State Department spokeswoman pointed to another page of the Web site
where neutral had been changed to natural. But it, too, said that the
mouth should be closed. Canada and Britain have issued similar instructions.

In the end, some critics say, the joke may be on the government, because
the face recognition system may deal poorly with aging, and a passport is
good for 10 years.

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Re: punkly current events


On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, James A. Donald wrote:

 If Afghanistan was subject to US jurisdiction, it would not
 have a bumper opium crop.

This assumes that the US wants the opium trade stopped.  Be serious.

-- 
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 Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

--
On 11 Dec 2004 at 8:29, J.A. Terranson wrote:
 Looking out of my fifth floor window I can connect to ~20
 802.x nets *without* directional antennas or high powered
 cards.  With extra gear, I can hit almost 50, and in both
 cases, roughly a third are completely open, another third are
 trivially protected, and the remaining third have done the
 best they can under the circumstances

This may explain the lack of wardriving.  Why bother to drive? 

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Re: Insurrectionist covers

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Thompson

 --- Justin Guyett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On 2004-12-11T08:10:27-0500, Steve Thompson wrote:
  [snip]
  This is what happens when one picks up ideas from people who present
 them
  second-hand (or at even greater distances from their origin) and who
 do
  not make proper footnotes.
 
 That's just a symptom of the problem that there's no clear line past
 which ideas must be cited.  How infrequently do you have to see an idea
 in print, and how novel must it be, before a citation is appropriate?

Depends, I suppose, on a number of factors.

 Ideas are a continuum.  Plagiarism is an artificial notion constructed
 as a result of the need to measure individuals' progress in higher
 education, as well as to protect intellectual property (which didn't
 really exist before the invention of the printing press).  People used
 to have scribes copy books.  They were treated as tomes of knowledge,
 not as property.  Now that they are property, people have more books
 than ever before, and are reading them less carefully than ever before.

Well, previously there was more importance put towards knowledge, and less
on making money with same.  Today the emphasis is somewhat different.

 Even Dawkins and Hobbes picked up ideas and used them without explicit
 citation.  Hobbes didn't arrive at his conception of the State of Nature
 in a void.  He got those ideas in reaction against Greek history,
 Descartes, and several other people.

Everybody does that, or at least those who create knowledge either as a
process of study and synthesis, or as a result of original research.  Some
ideas are prevalent to the extent that it is obvious as to their origin. 
Ideally, someone who presents an idea as his or her own will take some
pains to indicate the fact, and will distinguish their sources by way of
appropriate references.
 
 Which brings up an interesting thought relating to entropy.  Does it
 matter whether a prior author breaks up a subject into N pieces, proving
 N-1 pieces unworkable but leaving the last unaddressed?  Someone who

Now you're talking about SLAC.

 takes those ideas and writes a defense of the last piece might be
 copying the prior author's ideas, even though they were not written
 anywhere.  Intellectual property and ideas are often traceable directly,
 but sometimes they are not.  Requiring citations for ideas often results
 in incorrect citations or citations to secondary or tertiary (or worse)
 sources.

Theft of IP is a complicated endeavour these days.
 
 Hijacking that thought a bit, lack of citations is one of my pet peeves.

Me too.

 Nobody makes proper footnotes or citations these days; it's particularly
 noticeable in quote collections.  There are fake quotes from the
 founders floating around, as well as fake quotes from Marcus Aurelius
 (Times are bad; children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is
 writing a book.) as well as from all sorts of other historical figures.
 
Opinion:  It seems there is a new trend towards guild-like protection of
scientific and scientific-like diciplines.  People who like the idea of
guilds are working towards making participation contingent upon
membership.

Membership may eventually only be granted to individuals who submit to
arbitrary rules.  And note that I am not referring to ethical restrictions
in this instance.  Ethics -- good ones that dicate a minimum of racism and
like discrimination, for instance -- are becoming somehwat rare.


Regards,

Steve


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Re: punkly current events

--
James A. Donald:
  The reason that taliban caught in Afghanistan, and people
  with the wrong accent caught in Afghanistan, tend to wind
  up in Guantanamo Bay is not because Afghan warlords are
  taking orders from US overlords, it is because Afghan
  warlords are fighting a holy war against the same people
  who are our enemies.

Bill Stewart:
 But the Taliban were the US warlords' *friends*

Learn some history.

The current holy war was going at a slow burn even during the
war against the Soviet Union.  Once the Soviet Union fell back,
any pretense of alliance was dropped, and the flames were in
plain sight.

These terrorists have been bugging various muslims they deem
insufficiently muslim long before they were bugging the west. 

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RE: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

--
On 9 Dec 2004 at 16:15, J.A. Terranson wrote:
 (3) The other camp believes that stego is a lab-only toy, 
 unsuitable for much of anything besides scaring the shit out 
 of the people in the Satan camp.

I have used stego for practical purposes.  The great advantage
of stego is that it conceals your threat model. 

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Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)

At 12:01 AM 12/13/04 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
 Interestingly, I don't
know of anyone who still actively wardrives at random (as opposed to
against specific targets) for this same reason.

I've met some people this year who war-fly SoCal: a cessna, laptop, and
regular dipole
suffices, and a GPS helps with the mapping, but it was only for
curiosity's sake,
esp given the short time you're in a given net.

Re: punkly current events

--
On 9 Dec 2004 at 19:47, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
 In short, except for those few people who have some use for
 MixMaster, MixMaster was stillborn.

As one of those few people who have had some use for Mixmaster,
it does not seem stillborn to me. 

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Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread Eugen Leitl

On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 08:17:32AM -0600, Riad S. Wahby wrote:

 This seems like a peculiarity of your location.  Here in Austin almost
 all of downtown is covered by free wireless.

I wonder how much of it is deliberate. I run my AP open for any passerby, and
expect similiar in return when I pass through their area.

Speaking of wireless, I'm very impressed with LinkSys WRT54GS alternative
firmware advances. It's only a question of time before robust ad hoc meshes
are available by simply reflashing your AP with alternative firmware.

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Half baked troll

2004-12-13 Thread R.W. (Bob) Erickson

The need for a coherent framework to hang our speculations on is obvious.
The impossibility of any consensus based prototype is pure politics.
We need a way out, and that way is to take a lesson from the theory of 
evolution.
The lucky semantic construction is tested in practice by a virtual swarm 
of users.
If a given notion doesnt hold together the pieces of it
still populate the thoughtscape with a free radical chemistry.

Agreeing to disagree is insufficient,
Critical thought can reveal common folding lines
if we accept the notion that whats seperates people
are their individual stances, we are on the edge of something interesting.
Its my premiss that people are extrodinarily clever at making things fit.
We do see that individual pairs of people can find a bridge to 
understanding,
even between radically different world view.
We just have never found a way to generalise such mutual understandings.

I posit the existence of a net path whereby all people could come to 
know their commonality.

Not saying the path is accessable, but as long as we are unable to free 
ourselves from ideology,
whats wrong with one that builds on our best?

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

--
On 10 Dec 2004 at 21:47, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
 Wardriving is also basically dead. Sure there are a handful 
 of people that do it, but the number is so small as to be 
 irrelevant.

I regularly use the internet through other people's unprotected 
wireless networks, simply for convenience while travelling, not 
for any stego or anonymity purpose.   So do lots of other 
people.  I only target places convenient to tourists and likely 
to be rich in unprotected networks.   Maybe your network is 
located someplace where it is not worth the trouble to find it.
Sometimes I go down the street and steal some bandwidth just
because I find it a change to work in the open air. 

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Gentlemen don't read each others' mail.. bush no gman

2004-12-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)

Anyone surprised that the US spooks are admitting to wiretapping
UN people?  If they really had info they'd state it but refuse to answer

how they got it.

Somehow I doubt that UN officials and the people they might
chat with will get the secure phones they need.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57928-2004Dec11.html?nav=rss_nation

Re: To the Computer, You're Still Beautiful



On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote:


 computer chip. In airports and at border crossings, a machine will read the
 chip to see if the information there matches the bearer's face. But the
 machine can be flummoxed by smiles, which introduce teeth, wrinkles, seams
 and other distortions.

snip

 In the end, some critics say, the joke may be on the government, because
 the face recognition system may deal poorly with aging, and a passport is
 good for 10 years.

On the other hand, this provides a reason for passports to be reduced to
5 years.

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF

 Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)

At 06:01 PM 12/11/04 +, Justin wrote:
On 2004-12-11T06:48:41-0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
 Mixmaster is the most godawful complex thing to use, much less
 administer, around.  Even Jack B Nymble is complex.  It needs a
simple
 luser interface and something to piggyback servers on.

Not necessarily.  Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt.

1. Compile Mixmaster

You've already lost 90% of your possible hosts

2. Put the binary in some directory somewhere.
3. Configure Mutt with --with-mixmaster  (sadly not enabled by default)

4. add the line 'set mixmaster=/location/to/bin/mixmaster' to .muttrc

5. mkdir ~user/Mix/
6. Add a script to crontab that does:

You're obviously talking about some fringe unix-like OS...

7. When sending email, at the summary page just before sending, hit
'M'.

And if you forget then your message is sent to the To: recipient.  Nice
easy-to-screw-up UI there :-(

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Adam Shostack

On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 10:24:09PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
| * R. A. Hettinga quotes a news article:
| 
|   There have been numerous media reports in recent years that terrorist
|  groups, including al-Qaida, were using steganographic techniques.
| 
| As far as I know, these news stories can be tracked back to a
| particular USA Today story.  There's also been a bunch of stories how
| a covert channel in TCP could be used by terrorists to hide their
| communication.

There's very good evidence that Al Qaida does *not* use strong crypto.

I blogged on this at http://www.emergentchaos.com/archives/000561.html

is was the first time I'd given such a talk since 9/11. It wasn't
useful after we'd made the decision to stop hemorrhaging money by
shutting down the Freedom Network. (That was May or June of 2001.) So
I did a fair bit of reading about Al Qaeda's use of crypto. One of the
more interesting techniques I found was the 'draft message' method.
(http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002871.php)

It seems consistent that Al Qaeda prefers being 'fish in the sea' to
standing out by use of crypto. Also, given the depth and breadth of
conspiracies they believe in, it seems that they might see all us
cryptographers as a massive deception technique to get them to use bad
crypto. (And hey, they're almost right! We love that they use bad
crypto.)

There's other evidence for this. In particular, the laptops captured
have been exploited very quickly, in one case by a Wall St Journal
reporter. So rumors of steganography or advanced crypto techniques
have a burden of proof on them.

And see the link there to Ian Grigg's
http://www.financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000246.html

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread cluesink

Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Mixmaster is the most godawful complex thing to use, much less
administer, around.  Even Jack B Nymble is complex.
It needs a simple luser interface and something
to piggyback servers on.
 

Mixminion is a little better, but needs more market penetration and 
still has no good client integration.  i2p is looking good, since out of 
the box it comes with proxy pop and smtp servers.  The downside is that 
they proxy to a single mail provider in the i2p cloud.  Also, 
communications outside the cloud isn't a high priority now.  But the 
framework is building.

However, both suffer from a J. 6pack problem, because to use either, you 
have to run a node.

Jack B Nymble is complex because as you know, bidirectional pseudonymity 
is complex.  It's the return channel implementation that causes the 
problems.

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving


On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Justin wrote:

 Not necessarily.  Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt.

 1. Compile Mixmaster
 2. Put the binary in some directory somewhere.
 3. Configure Mutt with --with-mixmaster  (sadly not enabled by default)
 4. add the line 'set mixmaster=/location/to/bin/mixmaster' to .muttrc
 5. mkdir ~user/Mix/
 6. Add a script to crontab that does:

   cd ~user/Mix/
   mv -f mlist.txt mlist.txt.old
   wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/mlist.txt
   mv -f rlist.txt rlist.txt.old
   wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/rlist.txt
   mv -f pubring.mix pubring.mix.old
   wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/pubring.mix
   mv -f type2.list type2.list.old
   wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/type2.list
   mv -f pubring.asc pubring.asc.old
   wget -q http://stats.melontraffickers.com/pgp-all.asc
   mv -f pgp-all.asc pubring.asc

You just made my case for me.  Joe Sixpack will not wtf you are talking
about.  Hell, half the RedHat users won't know either (where's the
RPM?).

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF

 Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner

Re: punkly current events

--
On 10 Dec 2004 at 6:53, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
 Name a place which is not subject to US juridiction?   Ok, 
 Iran, N Kr, until we pull a regime change (tm) on them. Yeah, 
 they have a lot of 'net bandwidth, right.

If Afghanistan was subject to US jurisdiction, it would not 
have a bumper opium crop.  If Saudi Arabia was subject to US 
jurisdiction, they would not be funding terrorism. If Israel
was subject to US jurisdiction, they would be less cavalier
about murdering American trouble makers.

The reason that taliban caught in Afghanistan, and people with 
the wrong accent caught in Afghanistan, tend to wind up in 
Guantanamo Bay is not because Afghan warlords are taking orders 
from US overlords, it is because Afghan warlords are fighting a 
holy war against the same people who are our enemies.

Similarly Sistani is busily subverting the US favored parties 
in Iraq, at the same time he is busily subverting US enemies in 
Iran.   He has his own agenda, which on some matters agrees 
with the US agenda, and others contradicts the US agenda. 

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Re: punkly current events

2004-12-13 Thread Eugen Leitl

On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 06:39:13AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:

 I agree, with the additional constraint that mix functionality piggyback
 with a more popular feature.  Most folks won't install even the most
 benign, easy to use mixer; but include a mix server in a jazzy
 IM or next-gen napster program, and you get deployed.

The major advantage of massive rollout is speedy traffic remixing on the
local loop, which requires a high occupation density in address space.

The advantages are ~realtime, reliable traffic remixing.

Can you use UDP broadcast on cable or xDSL? 

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Re: punkly current events


On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Eugen Leitl wrote:

 Can you use UDP broadcast on cable or xDSL?

Completely provider dependent.  For instance, I have SWB DSL as my work
provider, and (AFAICT) am free to use whatever I want.  My home cable
connection prohibits any standard form of traceroute, but allows pings and
UDP...  Move across town, and everything changes.

-- 
Yours,

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF

 Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner

RE: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages


On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:

 Psyops ain't just for the (overt) military you know...


http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/editorial/10367781.htm

Truth be told, lies are part of Pentagon strategy

By JOSEPH L. GALLOWAY

Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - The first casualty when war comes is truth. So said Sen.
Hiram Johnson, a California Republican, in the year 1917.

There is a struggle inside the Pentagon over where to draw the line in
conducting so-called information operations or propaganda in the wars in
Afghanistan and Iraq and who will be involved. On one side are the
information warfare activists, led by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld
and Assistant Secretary Douglas Feith. On the other are those who believe
that telling lies to the media is wrong and military public affairs
officers should never be involved in that.

The wrangling has been going on since soon after the 9/11 attacks in 2001
when a Pentagon war planner, speaking anonymously, told a Washington Post
reporter, This is the most information-intensive war you can imagine.
We're going to lie about things.

Not long afterward the Pentagon opened its controversial Office of
Strategic Influence amid reports that its mission included planting false
news stories in the international media. A public outcry led to the hasty
shuttering of that office, but Rumsfeld served notice that while the
office may have been closed, its mission would be continued by other
entities.

The defense secretary told reporters on Nov. 18, 2002: Fine, you want to
savage this thing, fine. I'll give you the corpse. There's the name. You
can have the name, but I'm going to keep doing every single thing that
needs to be done, and I have.

This week the Los Angeles Times reported that CNN had been targeted in an
information war operation three weeks before the start of the attack
against Fallujah. On Oct. 14 Marine 1st Lt. Lyle Gilbert, a public affairs
spokesman, went on camera to declare that troops crossed the line of
departure - that the Fallujah operation was under way.

It was not. The U.S. commanders obviously hoped that the false news
broadcast by CNN would trigger certain moves by the insurgents and foreign
terrorists holding the Sunni city - moves that then could be analyzed to
gain information on how they would defend Fallujah.

Marine sources in Iraq flatly deny that Lt. Gilbert's statement to CNN was
a deception operation or part of a larger psy-war operation. They say the
distinction between public affairs and information operations is very
clear and jealously guarded by the public affairs community.

Also this week the Washington Post brought new attention on the
friendly-fire killing of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, a former NFL football
star who gave up the spotlight to become a soldier. For days after the
death of Tillman, military commanders and spokesmen both in Afghanistan
and at Fort Bragg left out any mention of his having been killed by
American bullets as they spun the story of a hero killed in battle.

That incident brought to mind the false stories about the rescue and
heroism of Pvt. Jessica Lynch foisted on reporters during the opening days
of the attack into Iraq. The official picture painted initially was of a
young woman who fought to the last bullet before being wounded and
captured. The truth was that Pvt. Lynch was injured when the vehicle in
which she was riding crashed and she was knocked unconscious. She never
fired a shot.

An investigation of the Tillman death and the information given to the
media is presently under way, according to an Army spokesman. Defense
Department spokesman Larry DiRita says he has asked his staff for more
information on how the Oct. 14 Marine incident came to pass.

Critics point to one troubling recent development: the decision by
commanders in Iraq in mid-September to combine information operations,
psychological operations and public affairs into a single strategic
communications office run by an Air Force brigadier general who reports
directly to Gen. George Casey, the American commander.

Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wrote a
letter in late September warning American commanders of the problems of
lumping military public affairs in with information operations.

Myers warned that public affairs and information operations must remain
separate. But his warning seems to have fallen on deaf ears in Iraq
because civilian leaders in the Pentagon and the National Security Council
insisted on a blended effort of both public affairs and psy-ops to woo
Iraqi and Arab support for America's efforts in Iraq.

In the old days of the Cold War America's propaganda war was fought by the
U.S. Information Agency, which was strictly forbidden from distributing
any propaganda inside the United States. USIA was first gutted and then
folded into the State Department during the mid-1990s.

Everyone involved in this argument would do well to heed Gen. Myers'

Re: Steve Thompson


On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:

 Out of nowhere cometh Steve Thompson, and sayeth he all manner of
 things.  But, while his mouth moveth one way, he seemeth to move the
 other.

 http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22steve+thompson%22start=0hl=ensafe=off;

 What hath suddenly attracted our AUK creep?

Who cares?  You got a beef, state it.

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF

 Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

At 10:08 AM 12/11/2004, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Justin wrote:
 Not necessarily.  Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt.

 1. Compile Mixmaster
.
You just made my case for me.  Joe Sixpack will not wtf you are talking
about.  Hell, half the RedHat users won't know either (where's the RPM?).
Joe Sixpack got lost at Compile.
It's still easier to use than the early versions of FreeS/WAN
(First do a clean compile of your kernel...)
On the other hand, if you're using Mutt, you're already
more complex than Joe Sixpack is likely to use.
Also, rather than a virus installer, it'd be interesting if there were
an anonymizer package built for Apache.  Widespread anonymous web browsing
would mean that simple web-based remailers would be easily usable.

Bill Stewart  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Thompson

 --- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Bill Stewart wrote:
 
  The more serious problem is what this means for computer evidence
  search and seizure procedures - the US has some official rules about
  copy the disk and return the computer that came out of the Steve
 Jackson
  case, not that they're always followed;
 
 Actually (at least here in the Midwest), it's copy (image) the machine
 and provide a copy of that image.  The computer and original drive stay
 locked in the evidence locker till the case is over.

I can't say what the legal practice is in Canada.  I imagine it depends on
whether the legal proceedings are politically charged; whether the cops
are out to discover evidence, or if they are looking to destroy evidence;
or any of a number of motivating factors.

From a purely technical perspective, there is no possible reason why the
police would ever need to keep the computers and all copies of data
related to an investigation.  It is possible to image everything on a hard
disk in an afternoon, including the extra bits available through, say,
the, READ LONG(10) command in the SCSI protocol, which are normally used
for ECC and CRC on each sector.  Depending on the device, it may also be
possible to access the spares tracks.  

In the rare event that a forensics firm is looking to scoop data that was
overwritten, the police should be able to provide a copy of the original
data back to the individual or business at a trivial cost in comparison to
the costs of the forensic proceedures.  Apart from data stored in flash
memory, or similar less common places, there is no good reason why the
actual computer hardware would need to be confiscated, except in the most
exceptional circumstances where in-situ testing might need to be done with
the original equipment.  But in that case, the police should be required
to acquire hardware that duplicates the original, so that they cannot be
said to have tampered or damaged the originals.

For correctness, the original computer equipment should be used once for
the acquisition of a read-only copy of the data residing on it.

However, it seems that the police will pretend that they are more
incompetent than they actually are in order to use confiscation as
extra-judicial punishment -- and that is just the common case where there
are only legitimate legal proceedings at issue.

In some cases, the police (in canada) are apparently willing to go to
great lengths to destroy evidence and impose extra-judicial sanction on
the subject of an `investigation', which may not exist at all in a legal
sense, by way of employing clandestine tactics.  In terms of my
experience, the near total loss of my computers and other materials was
carried out over a period of about three years, in an incrimental fashion
that did not have even the pretense of legitimacy, but which nevertheless
accompanied a subtle PR campaign that sought to suggest that there was
some sort of hush-hush investigation that as a result of so-called
exceptional circumstances, necessitated the particular methods that I
observed.

Total bullshit, actually, but we know that SpookWorld is exempt from the
normal rules of civilised behaviour because of the special nature of its
denizens.

Anyhow, my assessment of the needs of computer forensic proceedures is
probably quite accurate.  The reality of conflicting and extra-legal
agendas at work in some cases (such as the Steve Jackson incident) has
apparently dictated a deliberately 'stupid' approach on the part of law
enforcement personnel when it suits them.


Regards,

Steve


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Re: Steve Thompson

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Thompson

 --- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
 
  Out of nowhere cometh Steve Thompson, and sayeth he all manner of
  things.  But, while his mouth moveth one way, he seemeth to move the
  other.
 
 

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22steve+thompson%22start=0hl=ensafe=off;
 
  What hath suddenly attracted our AUK creep?

AUK denizens have lots and lots of credibility, and even though I don't
sell shit on eBay, I suppose I should be worried about being mistaken for
someone who does.  Perhaps I should be thankful for the warning?
 
 Who cares?  You got a beef, state it.

My detractors are strangely unwilling to state their 'beef' with any
significant degree of specificity.  Rather, they typically prefer to
employ misdirection.  I can't seem to wrap my head around their
motivations, but I do have a tentative hypothesis -- which I will spare
discussing on the list in the spirit of conserving the existing signal to
noise ratio.
 

Regards,

Steve


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Gary Webb dies - reported on CIA Cocaine Connections

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/peninsula/10399522.htm
http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/11745531p-12630606c.html (AP Storty)
Gary Webb, 49, former Mercury News reporter, author
INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST WROTE CONTROVERSIAL SERIES
By Jessica Portner
Mercury News
Gary Webb, a former Mercury News investigative reporter, author and
legislative staffer who ignited a firestorm with his controversial stories,
died Friday in an apparent suicide in his suburban Sacramento home. He was 49.

The Sacramento County coroner's office said that when A Better Moving
Company arrived at Mr. Webb's Carmichael home at about 8:20 a.m. Friday, a
worker discovered a note posted to the front door which read: ``Please do
not enter. Call 911 and ask for an ambulance.''

Mr. Webb, an award-winning journalist, was found dead of a gunshot wound to
the head, Sacramento County Deputy Coroner Bill Guillot said Saturday.

Mr. Webb's friends and colleagues described him as a devoted father and a
funny, dogged reporter who was passionate about investigative journalism.

As a staff writer for the Mercury News from 1989 to 1997, he exposed
freeway retrofitting problems in the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake and wrote
stories about the Department of Motor Vehicles' computer software fiascos.

Mr. Webb was perhaps best known for sparking a national controversy with a
1996 story that contended supporters of a CIA-backed guerrilla army in
Nicaragua helped trigger America's crack-cocaine epidemic in the 1980s. The
``Dark Alliance'' series in the Mercury News came under fire by other news
organizations, and the paper's own investigation concluded the series did
not meet its standards.

Mr. Webb resigned a year and a half after the series appeared in the paper.
He then published his book, ``Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras and the
Crack Cocaine Explosion.''

In the past few years, Mr. Webb worked in the California Assembly Speaker's
Office of Member Services and for the Joint Legislative Audit Committee.
The committee investigated charges that Oracle received a no-bid contract
from Gov. Gray Davis. After being laid off from his legislative post last
year, Mr. Webb was hired by the Sacramento News and Review, a weekly
publication.

Tom Dresslar, a spokesman for state Attorney General Bill Lockyer who has
known Mr. Webb for more than a decade, was distraught Saturday when he
heard that his friend may have taken his own life.

``He had a fierce commitment to justice, truth and cared a lot about people
who are forgotten and society tries to shove into the dark corners,''
Dresslar said. ``It's a big loss for me personally and a great loss for the
journalism community.''

Services for Mr. Webb are pending.

Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving


On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, James A. Donald wrote:

 On 11 Dec 2004 at 8:29, J.A. Terranson wrote:
  Looking out of my fifth floor window I can connect to ~20
  802.x nets *without* directional antennas or high powered
  cards.  With extra gear, I can hit almost 50, and in both
  cases, roughly a third are completely open, another third are
  trivially protected, and the remaining third have done the
  best they can under the circumstances

 This may explain the lack of wardriving.  Why bother to drive?

Exactly.  I also run an open WiFi (labelled as Open Wifi :-) for others,
as a payment for those that I use around town.  Interestingly, I don't
know of anyone who still actively wardrives at random (as opposed to
against specific targets) for this same reason.  Why bother?  The only
thing you really *should* have is a high powered card with any reasonably
directional antenna (~$120.00usd as a set).  That and a laptop and you can
run any midsized office that doesn't need to provide services at a fixed
IP :-)

 --digsig
  James A. Donald


-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF

 Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner

Kazaa can't bar child pornographers, court told

2004-12-13 Thread R.A. Hettinga

Quadrafecta!!!

Horse Number Four, Paedophilia, or Pokey, to his friends...

Only took 36 hours, true to his namesake... Or something.

Cheers,
RAH
---

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/10/kazaa_p2p_trial/print.html

The Register


 Biting the hand that feeds IT

The Register » Internet and Law » Digital Rights/Digital Wrongs »

 Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/10/kazaa_p2p_trial/

Kazaa can't bar child pornographers, court told
By Tim Richardson (tim.richardson at theregister.co.uk)
Published Friday 10th December 2004 17:16 GMT

Sharman Networks - the company behind peer-to-peer file sharing outfit
Kazaa - has denied it is able to block users who use the service to share
child pornography.

Sharman Networks is currently in the Australian Federal Court in Sydney
facing allegations that it created the world's largest music piracy network
and knew that its software was being used to distribute music illegally.

Earlier in the trial, Tony Bannon, QC - representing dozens of music
companies including Universal, EMI, Warner and Sony BMG - dismissed Sharman
Networks' claim that the company had no control over how its software was
used.

Quoting the company's policy on child pornography, he said: If at any time
Kazaa finds that you are using Kazaa to collect or distribute child
pornography or other obscene material, [Sharman] reserves the right to
permanently bar you and your computers from accessing Kazaa and other Kazaa
services.

The argument went on, that if Kazaa could bar traders in illegal child porn
images, then it could block users who illegally distribute music.

However, Philip Morle, Sharman Network's chief technology officer, told the
court yesterday that he did not think the company could bar people who used
its P2P software to distribute child pornography. He went on to say that he
didn't know how people could be blocked; nor was he aware of Kazaa's policy
on child pornography, reported ZD Net Australia.

The trial continues. ®

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Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages


On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Bill Stewart wrote:

 The more serious problem is what this means for computer evidence
 search and seizure procedures - the US has some official rules about
 copy the disk and return the computer that came out of the Steve Jackson
 case, not that they're always followed;

Actually (at least here in the Midwest), it's copy (image) the machine
and provide a copy of that image.  The computer and original drive stay
locked in the evidence locker till the case is over.

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF

 Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages