Re: RAH's postings.
At 11:47 PM +0100 12/21/04, Anonymous wrote: RAH, if you want to anonymize a quoted email, it helps if you remove the In-Reply-To: and References: headers. Doh. Not the first time that's happened, either. *Gotta* remember that cut and paste thing... Yours in header suppression, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004
At 02:16 PM 12/20/04 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: No doubt a real intelligence agent would be good at getting through this kind of screening, but that doesn't mean most of the people who want to blow up planes would be any good at it! You really continue to understimate the freedom fighters, don't you? (The first) King George did the same.
Re: [Antisocial] Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theorist
At 01:23 PM 12/19/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: ..They have computers, they're tappin' phone lines, you know that ain't allowed.. Zappa...Heads...Crimson? A profile is emerging here! Either that or you recently broke into your dad's vinyl collection... Very funny. My walls o' vinyl are, BTW, licenses to KaZaa the content in more convenient forms. Here, this will amuse you. Only last week did I burn my first audio CD. The week before, my first data CD. Before that, it was hot backups and ZIP disks. Yes, we're 4 years into the 21st century. Dig. As far as Dad's, well, how many five year olds know Waits, Krimso, and Einsturzende, but know nothing of Brittny? I recently recycled a computer fan guard into the AA site of a mock toy RPG, using styro cups as the grenade and a broken plastic gun as the handle. Compleat with balaclava on the young-un. Stick that in your chillum and process it. And have a nice solstice.
RE: RAH's postings.
At 10:14 AM -0500 12/22/04, Trei, Peter wrote: His response boils down to 'fuck you'. *You* may say that. *I* couldn't *possibly* comment. -- Francis Urquhart, (the original FU), in Michael Dobbs 'House of Cards' -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA I guess it's disingenuous to argue with someone who spews truth from every orifice. --Aaron Evans
Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?
At 04:23 PM 12/19/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Funny how most Americans only wake up after it happens to them. As EC said, the only we understand is dead Merkins. Case in point? How 'bout that proud-n-patriotic lady in Farenheit 911? As far as I could tell, prior to her son's death she was all in favor of the Attack on Iraq and even encouraged her son to serve (I hate that fucking Karma rules, mofo.
RE: RAH's postings.
I wasn't actually expecting anonymity. I wrote directly to RAH, asking him politely to edit down his posts, and simply post a few lines and a pointer. Not pointing out his faults in public was simply good manners. His response boils down to 'fuck you'. Cypherpunks has a very loose charter, but it is not the 'everything and anything RAH thinks is neat' list. Peter Someone wrote: At 10:23 AM -0500 12/21/04, Somebody wrote: RAH, if you want to anonymize a quoted email, it helps if you remove the In-Reply-To: and References: headers. What the hell does an article about gypsy mechanics have to do with cypherpunks? I plead anarchic markets, m'lord. Emerging phenomena, and all that, in spite all regulation to the contrary.
Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?
The subject header is very nice. --- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several points come to mind: (1) Mr. Monahan seems to think that lies on police reports are an artifact of 9/11. Welcome to the real world Mr. Monahan. You say that like it's a bad thing. The real world, that is. Most people find that the real world isn't all bad, and get on with their lives. (2) Monahan, and those like him who continue to fly, have nobody to blame but themselves: if you continue to feed these assholes by buying those tickets, then you have it coming: simple economics. If people refuse to fly, this will stop. Oh, it's even simpler to deal with than that. Technology (for real this time) will eventually make air travel, at it's current state-of-the-art, obsolete, thus obviating the immediate inconveniences that spur like complaints. It's all simply a matter of obtaining the proper perspective. (3) As to the ACLU, again, welcome to the real world. Many of us have been down that road before you Mr. Monahan - while the ACLU is not a bad thing per se, they are a lot like the cops and courts: they are not there for any one individual, there are there for the big picture. And the Big Picture requires money, which means you must be a minority (since how can anyone of the majority ever be oppressed?). In a nutshell, Fuck The ACLU. This is fairly cogent. In the real world, large bureaucracies are not so good at handling a wide variety of different things. Corporations usually specialize in one major product area, and don't do so well when they expand into areas that differ too much from their core product. Don't blame the ACLU too much, it's really not their fault if they fail to fully leverage their expertise and influence in every single case. (4) Lastly, as to your cesarian, fuck you and your wife, and her cesearean. We don't give a shit about your personal problems, just like you don't care about ours. Sure, it makes for a pulpy little story, but That's strange. I find that one's personal life is never really much of a concern to for most people in our society. I know a large number of people, personally, who give virtually no thought to their own lives outside of work. Myself, I am also inclined in that direction. Today, most of the people I know are out satisfying their Christmas obligations. And while those who choose to enjoy the season are fully engaged in the spirit of merrymaking, it is very nice that at least the holiday is entirely voluntary. So far, I have not had to fight off any Christmas carolers, nor have I received any unpleasant gifts (although I will tell you more later about the non-Jewish group I saw recently that seemed to be confused by Chanukah). Which is why, incidentally, that I rarely have to care about my personal life. As much as can be expected, my personal life caries on in the best way possible, thus requiring none of the time and attention that would be better directed elsewhere. when you get right down to it, do we really care? No. Because, again, you helped to create this beast you are now bitching about, and after it bit you, you *continued to fly*, and thereby feed it some more. These things happen from time to time. The best advice that you could give to the original author would be to suggest that he relax and wait until the incident passes. Regards, Steve (Sent only to Mr. Terranson yesterday, thought it would amuse the list and so resent.) __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 21, 2004 10:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004 At 02:16 PM 12/20/04 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: No doubt a real intelligence agent would be good at getting through this kind of screening, but that doesn't mean most of the people who want to blow up planes would be any good at it! You really continue to understimate the freedom fighters, don't you? (The first) King George did the same. Maybe so. It's clearly added cost to the attackers--they have to select not just the subset of volunteers willing to blow themselves up on the plane, but the subset of *those* who can also keep cool under rapid-fire questioning of their cover story. The attackers probably have to either spend a lot of time rehearsing their cover stories, or have to keep their cover stories very close to their actual lives and interests, which makes profiling easier. Both of these cut way down on the total pool of attackers available. My assumption is that national intelligence agencies can probably afford to do this--they can probably filter through a lot more possible candidates to get field agents who can handle a cover story well, for example, since they can hire openly, rather than quietly recruiting from madrassa students or something. Their training facilities can be centralized and stay in one place, rather than being a camp in the desert somewhere that has to be abandoned frequently, and they can develop a lot of expertise in training people to survive intensive questioning without fumbling their cover story. --John
An interesting thread...Hacking Bluetooth
There's some guy (German Guy) spouting some coherent-sounding conspiracy theories over here: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=23topic=10message=54181mpage=1showdate=12/18/04 I wouldn't normally post something like this, but the guy's done a little bit of homework on a huge variety of topics, so it's really an excellent hoax, seen from a distance. Here's on thing giving me some doubts, though (but of course if this is true he may have just pulled it from Google somewhere): Here´s another myth: you cannot hack bluetooth from a distance of more than 40 metres. Not true. My technical partner Felix can crack it at over half a kilometre. Which is why he enjoys driving around so much in areas where we know British, American, Israeli or Russian ops are living or working. The great thing about many German cities is that most affordable residences are within metres of the street anyway. Any comments? -TD
Re: An interesting thread...Hacking Bluetooth
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 02:13:52PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Here4s another myth: you cannot hack bluetooth from a distance of more than 40 metres. Not true. My technical partner Felix can crack it at over half a kilometre. Which is why he enjoys driving around so much in areas The official record right now is 1.74 km: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/49907 http://trifinite.org/trifinite_stuff_bluebug.html#news No doubt you can do much better with a large dish, and good alignment, as well as a clear line of sight. where we know British, American, Israeli or Russian ops are living or working. The great thing about many German cities is that most affordable residences are within metres of the street anyway. Any comments? Bluetooth attacks aren't exactly new. No idea what else that tinfoil-hatted person is spouting. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net pgp08WpW435PH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: An interesting thread...Hacking Bluetooth
Tyler Durden wrote: There's some guy (German Guy) spouting some coherent-sounding conspiracy theories over here: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=23topic=10message=54181mpage=1showdate=12/18/04 I wouldn't normally post something like this, but the guy's done a little bit of homework on a huge variety of topics, so it's really an excellent hoax, seen from a distance. Here's on thing giving me some doubts, though (but of course if this is true he may have just pulled it from Google somewhere): Here4s another myth: you cannot hack bluetooth from a distance of more than 40 metres. Not true. My technical partner Felix can crack it at over half a kilometre. Which is why he enjoys driving around so much in areas where we know British, American, Israeli or Russian ops are living or working. The great thing about many German cities is that most affordable residences are within metres of the street anyway. Any comments? http://www.engadget.com/entry/3093445122266423/ I believe they went a bit over a kilometer at Defcon (against a knowing volunteer, so they say) from a hotel rooftop. The rest sounds perfectly plausible, as well. WEP is Swiss cheese, guys tell their girlfriends too much and girlfriends gossip amongst themselves. Nothing to see here. Move along. -- Roy M. Silvernail is [EMAIL PROTECTED], and you're not It's just this little chromium switch, here. - TFT SpamAssassin-procmail-/dev/null-bliss http://www.rant-central.com
Re: Do We Need a National ID Card?
On Dec 22, 2004, at 8:53, R.A. Hettinga wrote: Do we need a national ID card? The comment period on NIST's draft FIPS-201 (written in very hasty response to Homeland Security Presidential Directive HSPD-12) ends tomorrow. The draft, as written, enables use of the card by Smart IEDs and for improved selection of kidnapping victims. One cabinet department's Associate CIO for Cybersecurity said of this project, Eventually this is going to lead to a national ID card. Refs: http://csrc.nist.gov/piv-project/ http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nspd/hspd-12.html http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/draft-FIPS_201-110804- public1.pdf
RE: International meet on cryptology in Chennai
Hi all, I thought I should add one more piece of information; it didn't say which conference it was. It is Indocrypt 2004 (http://www-rocq.inria.fr/codes/indocrypt2004/). Regards Anish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.A. Hettinga Sent: 20 December 2004 18:11 To: cryptography@metzdowd.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: International meet on cryptology in Chennai http://www.chennaionline.com/colnews/newsitem.asp?NEWSID=%7BE75EFF46-873D-4 942-884A-69B736936D6B%7DCATEGORYNAME=Tamil+Nadu Chennai Online News Service - View News Dec 20, 2004 Mon Dharana International meet on cryptology in Chennai Search for More News Chennai, Dec 19: A three-day international conference on cryptology will get underway here tomorrow with the aim of providing secure communication to the business and military sectors. Over 140 researchers in the field, including some from abroad, would participate in the conference, Dr M S Vijyaraghavan, executive director, Society for Electronics Transactions and Security (SETS), told reporters here today. Cryptography is the art of providing secure information over insecure channels. It encodes texts and provides a method of decoding. Cryptanalysis is the art of breaking into cryptographic information. The new science - cryptology - was a study of both, he said. India had not made any headway in cryptology, he said and added that the conference would help develop this in a big way. President A P J Abdul Kalam would address the participants through video conferencing. Dr R Chidambaram, principal scientific adviser, Government of India, would inaugurate the conference. (Our Correspondent) Published: Sunday, December 19, 2004 -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
