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hi, You may then need to pass a bill that gives you the right to kick them out of office if they don't fullfill atleast 50% of what they promised in a given time frame. Sarath. --- John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:37 AM 9/22/03 -0700, you wrote: hi, Vote for some one who promises freedom,democracy and development. Is that so hard? They all *promise* that. Sarath. --John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger
And just how are you going to get the kongress-kritters to pass a bill that would allow the public to push them and other poly-ticks out of office if they don't perform? That's like asking them to pass a bill that would limit them from getting raises, soft money, etc... --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ --*--:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD.\|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Sarad AV wrote: hi, You may then need to pass a bill that gives you the right to kick them out of office if they don't fullfill atleast 50% of what they promised in a given time frame.
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On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:23:47AM -0400, Sunder wrote: And just how are you going to get the kongress-kritters to pass a bill that would allow the public to push them and other poly-ticks out of office if they don't perform? That's like asking them to pass a bill that would limit them from getting raises, soft money, etc... Or restrict political spam. Fat chance. -Declan
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Don't forget that in ancient greece the populace could vote any leader into exile. My brother believes we should be able to vote any publically elected official directly into jail, no questions asked. -TD From: Sarad AV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:30:39 -0700 (PDT) hi, You may then need to pass a bill that gives you the right to kick them out of office if they don't fullfill atleast 50% of what they promised in a given time frame. Sarath. --- John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:37 AM 9/22/03 -0700, you wrote: hi, Vote for some one who promises freedom,democracy and development. Is that so hard? They all *promise* that. Sarath. --John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com
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Bread and Circuses? :) --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ --*--:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD.\|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: Don't forget that in ancient greece the populace could vote any leader into exile. My brother believes we should be able to vote any publically elected official directly into jail, no questions asked.
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On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 02:19 PM, Sunder wrote: They *ALL* promise freedom, democracy, and development. It's voting for someone who delivers thems instead of opression, fascism, and theft that's the problem. Anyone who claims to deliver democracy, and development needs to be assassinated. As for delivering freedom, they can butt out of the election as a first step. --Tim May
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At 07:18 PM 9/21/03 -0700, Tim May wrote: Give part of germany to the jews, and give palestine back to the arabs Give the Jew invaders of Palestine a 10-minute lesson in swimming, hand them a pair of water wings, and tell them to swim for their lives. With luck, only one in 100 will make it to the point where Do-Gooder rescuer ships make them welfare burdens on America. America shouldn't have been / shouldn't be involved in any of the overseas wars or the resulting injustices. It was a Euro/Brit problem. As far as I can tell, the EuroXian guilt after WWII was shed by sending the Jews to a slice of desert that the Brits had conquered previously. Two wrongs not making a right doesn't seem to have occurred to them. Funny how this was never described during my American education. Its quite simple, albeit suppressed. It therefore seems fairer to give a slice of EuroLand to the folks that the Euros felt guilty about mistreating. Its on the same ocean, and there's more water there too. This is also totally kosher historically, the victors of war often repartition the losers' lands (to say nothing of enslaving them..) Its a bummer that this would have to be done 60 years too late, displacing some Euros, but hey, maybe three wrongs make things right? --- Will trade one Vanunu trading card for a Pollard..
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On Monday 22 September 2003 12:37 pm, Sarad AV wrote: Vote for some one who promises freedom,democracy These two don't co-exist too well if you're idle.
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hi, Vote for some one who promises freedom,democracy and development. Is that so hard? Sarath. --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess in the end we are responsible for the actions our government takes. And if we remain ignorant and continue to benefit (and do nothing to stop it), then we are responsible, particularly when our military represents an outrageously assymetric invasionary force. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
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Major Variola (ret)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I can tell, the EuroXian guilt after WWII was shed by sending the Jews to a slice of desert that the Brits had conquered previously. Two wrongs not making a right doesn't seem to have occurred to them. [...] Its a bummer that this would have to be done 60 years too late, displacing some Euros, but hey, maybe three wrongs make things right? Two wrongs do not make a right, but three rights do make a left :-) Peter Trei
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They *ALL* promise freedom, democracy, and development. It's voting for someone who delivers thems instead of opression, fascism, and theft that's the problem. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ --*--:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD.\|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Sarad AV wrote: hi, Vote for some one who promises freedom,democracy and development. Is that so hard?
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Hey... Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. -Homer Simpson From: Sarad AV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 04:37:26 -0700 (PDT) hi, Vote for some one who promises freedom,democracy and development. Is that so hard? Sarath. --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess in the end we are responsible for the actions our government takes. And if we remain ignorant and continue to benefit (and do nothing to stop it), then we are responsible, particularly when our military represents an outrageously assymetric invasionary force. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Eric Cordian wrote: In my opinion, the tiger was worth more than all the US Troops currently occupying Iraq. Maybe the tiger shot first. If AmeriKKKa freely re-elects Shrub, because Americans admire his bullying the rest of the world, and the American people freely support and fund such activities as the Pax AmeriKKKana, and unprovoked wars of aggression, then it's probably true there are no civilians in AmeriKKKa either. I'm sure that the opposition shares that view already. And I may agree. Unfortunately if true, then that means that the enemy peoples are also all combatants and the US would be justified (as in a naval battle with no civilians) of ending the whole thing in 30 minutes by applying some advanced physics to enemy landscapes. Rough on the oil market though. DCF
Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger
At 06:27 PM 9/20/03 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: News services are reporting that US Troops, who have been holding regular drunken parties at the Baghdad Zoo, have shot and killed the Zoo's rare Bengal tiger. 1. The grunt found out that cats have no alpha cats 2. Nothing like boozing it up in a Moslem (ex)nation. At *least* the grunt wasn't *stoned* on cannabis or something evil like that. At 10:04 PM 9/9/03 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: We have three or four distinct groups of cats living here that we feed. Two in the house, two in the garage/greenhouse who once lived in the house but could not resolve the dominance issue between one male in the house and one alpha female now in the greenhouse. Then there are the more or less permanent two females that live on and under the front porch, who also have serious unresolved issues with the Mama Fritz of the greenhouse (who does get outside during the day). Dominance also goes down the line, watching the 3 young offspring of one of the porch ladies makes that pretty clear, one of those bosses the other two, snip Do you use PROMIS for Felines or the latest Orion Scientific codes to manage these relationships? Just curious; Ellison is on the phone trying to sell Oracle ID for cats. If the chinese muslim priestgrunt was spying for Usama, maybe Wen-Ho was selling bahklava recipes to Saddam?
Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger
News services are reporting that US Troops, who have been holding regular drunken parties at the Baghdad Zoo, have shot and killed the Zoo's rare Bengal tiger. It seems not only civilians are in danger from US Troops in the Occupied Iraqi Territories. In my opinion, the tiger was worth more than all the US Troops currently occupying Iraq. An occupation in violation of international law as part of Shrub's unprovoked War of Aggression to settle his family grudge with Saddam Hussein, control the world's oil supply, and take out one of the two regimes that refused to pressure the Palestinians to make peace on Israel's terms. A few years ago, I said there were no civilians in Israel, and therefore no retaliation by the Palestinians against Israeli military aggression could be considered a terrorist act. If AmeriKKKa freely re-elects Shrub, because Americans admire his bullying the rest of the world, and the American people freely support and fund such activities as the Pax AmeriKKKana, and unprovoked wars of aggression, then it's probably true there are no civilians in AmeriKKKa either. I no longer consider 9/11 a terrorist act. Some URLs on the tiger... http://us.rediff.com/news/2003/sep/20iraq1.htm http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-12796568,00.html -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
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On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 10:58:21PM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 06:27 PM 9/20/03 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: News services are reporting that US Troops, who have been holding regular drunken parties at the Baghdad Zoo, have shot and killed the Zoo's rare Bengal tiger. 1. The grunt found out that cats have no alpha cats Or rather that he just wasn't it. 2. Nothing like boozing it up in a Moslem (ex)nation. At *least* the grunt wasn't *stoned* on cannabis or something evil like that. Of course, if he'd been smoking hashish instead of drinking, he'd never even considered walking into that tiger's den. At 10:04 PM 9/9/03 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: We have three or four distinct groups of cats living here that we feed. Two in the house, two in the garage/greenhouse who once lived in the house but could not resolve the dominance issue between one male in the house and one alpha female now in the greenhouse. Then there are the more or less permanent two females that live on and under the front porch, who also have serious unresolved issues with the Mama Fritz of the greenhouse (who does get outside during the day). Dominance also goes down the line, watching the 3 young offspring of one of the porch ladies makes that pretty clear, one of those bosses the other two, snip Do you use PROMIS for Felines or the latest Orion Scientific codes to manage these relationships? Just curious; Ellison is on the phone trying to sell Oracle ID for cats. I am just their lowly servant. They call me Katmandoo. . If the chinese muslim priestgrunt was spying for Usama, maybe Wen-Ho was selling bahklava recipes to Saddam? Sounds like all he had was his pastoring notes -- like where, in the maze of tiger cages, the individuals he worked with lived, and who, in the gulag heirarchy, he needed to talk to about them. Although ya' never know with them inscrutable muslims, and him being an inscrutable oriental besides. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
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At 06:35 PM 9/21/03 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: I no longer consider 9/11 a terrorist act. Fuck. I've been nearing a similar conclusion, though from an entirely different, uh, line of approach. Though I don't consider having quite crossed that line yet. I guess in the end we are responsible for the actions our government takes. And if we remain ignorant and continue to benefit (and do nothing to stop it), then we are responsible, particularly when our military represents an outrageously assymetric invasionary force. If you pay taxes, you are a terrorist. Even if you pay them under threat of violence, as most do. 9/11 was a commando/specops operations against an invader on par with Rome. If the US were invaded by troops from Arabia, one would expect that American Patriots (tm) would perform similar military actions. What part of beware foreign entanglements does Congress have a comprehension problem with? Give part of germany to the jews, and give palestine back to the arabs, and blame the history of British imperialism. Buy whatever oil, hash, carpets you find on the free market. Trade with all, make treaties with none, and beware of foreign entanglements. -George Washington
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On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 04:55 PM, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 06:35 PM 9/21/03 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: I no longer consider 9/11 a terrorist act. Fuck. I've been nearing a similar conclusion, though from an entirely different, uh, line of approach. Though I don't consider having quite crossed that line yet. I guess in the end we are responsible for the actions our government takes. And if we remain ignorant and continue to benefit (and do nothing to stop it), then we are responsible, particularly when our military represents an outrageously assymetric invasionary force. If you pay taxes, you are a terrorist. Even if you pay them under threat of violence, as most do. America is the world's leading terrorist state. My name is Tim, and men with guns take a lot of money from me each year. I am a terrorist. 9/11 was a commando/specops operations against an invader on par with Rome. If the US were invaded by troops from Arabia, one would expect that American Patriots (tm) would perform similar military actions. As horrible as 9/11 was for the 3000 or so victims and their families, it was not much more than hundreds of thousands of victims of American terrorism have suffered around the world. I'm glad I wasn't a victim...but, then, I figured out many years ago that living in a Schelling point for reprisals against American terrorism was not a smart thing to do. And I discovered that helping Delta and Jet Blue go bankrupt through not flying was smarter than being a sitting duck victim of Spec Ops vs. Al Qaida turf wars. Give part of germany to the jews, and give palestine back to the arabs Give the Jew invaders of Palestine a 10-minute lesson in swimming, hand them a pair of water wings, and tell them to swim for their lives. With luck, only one in 100 will make it to the point where Do-Gooder rescuer ships make them welfare burdens on America. --Tim May We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter- day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinable urban guerilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater instability. --George H. W. Bush, A World Transformed, 1998
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I no longer consider 9/11 a terrorist act. Fuck. I've been nearing a similar conclusion, though from an entirely different, uh, line of approach. Though I don't consider having quite crossed that line yet. I guess in the end we are responsible for the actions our government takes. And if we remain ignorant and continue to benefit (and do nothing to stop it), then we are responsible, particularly when our military represents an outrageously assymetric invasionary force. On the left wing liberal NPR I heard some army dude interviewed. He openly referred to Iraq's #1 oil pumping station as The Crown Jewel, and discussed a military action to capture it in terms of a dollar value--This was a $6 billion dollar target or some such thing. Let's say that 9/11 may have been a terrorist act, but Bush pals are rendering it an ever purer act of war with each passing day. -TD From: Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 18:27:03 -0700 (PDT) News services are reporting that US Troops, who have been holding regular drunken parties at the Baghdad Zoo, have shot and killed the Zoo's rare Bengal tiger. It seems not only civilians are in danger from US Troops in the Occupied Iraqi Territories. In my opinion, the tiger was worth more than all the US Troops currently occupying Iraq. An occupation in violation of international law as part of Shrub's unprovoked War of Aggression to settle his family grudge with Saddam Hussein, control the world's oil supply, and take out one of the two regimes that refused to pressure the Palestinians to make peace on Israel's terms. A few years ago, I said there were no civilians in Israel, and therefore no retaliation by the Palestinians against Israeli military aggression could be considered a terrorist act. If AmeriKKKa freely re-elects Shrub, because Americans admire his bullying the rest of the world, and the American people freely support and fund such activities as the Pax AmeriKKKana, and unprovoked wars of aggression, then it's probably true there are no civilians in AmeriKKKa either. I no longer consider 9/11 a terrorist act. Some URLs on the tiger... http://us.rediff.com/news/2003/sep/20iraq1.htm http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-12796568,00.html -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law _ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com
